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GROUPS AND CATEGORIES SOCIAL IDENTITY
In common is our difference from others. In the face of their difference our
similarity often comes into focus. Defining ‘us’ involves defining a range of ‘thems’ also.
When we say something about others we are often saying something about ourselves. In
the human world, similarity and difference are always functions of a point of view: our
similarity is their difference and vice versa. Similarity and difference reflect each other
across a shared boundary. At the boundary, we discover what we are in what we are not,
and vice versa. Even when the matter is expressed as superficially as this, it is possible
to see an internal–external dialectic of identification at work collectively, and to begin to
understand how the same basic processual model of the construction of identity may be
applicable to individuals and to collectivities. This is not to say individuals and
collectivities are the same.
Sociology and social anthropology (social psychology, as we shall see later in this
chapter, is somewhat different). Without some way of talking about them, we can’t think
sociologically about anything. Even the intimacies of selfhood incorporate
identifications such as gender, ethnicity and kinship which, whatever else they are, are
also definitively collective. However, although the ‘individual’ is an easy enough notion
to grasp – in the sense that the human world is peopled by real bodies that are also
persons – a ‘collectivity’ is more abstract and elusive. So what might ‘collectivity’ mean?
Similarity among and between a plurality of persons – according to whatever criteria – is
the clearest image of the collective that I have offered so far. In sociology and social
anthropology it is generally taken for granted that a collectivity is a plurality of individuals
who either see themselves as similar or have in common similar behaviour and
circumstances.
Centuries and still informs much contemporary social theory. It underpins most,
if not all, attempts to apply models of causality to the human world, allowing regularities
in behaviour to be translated into the principles which are believed to produce that
behaviour. It also exposes a major fault-line within social theory: between an approach
which prioritises people’s own understandings of their interpersonal relationships and
another which looks for and classifies behavioural patterns from a perspective which is
outside the context in question. groups and categories 103 Somewhat crudely, this is the
difference between the Verstehen of Weber and Simmel, and the positivism of Durkheim,
between ‘the cultural’ and ‘the social’ (Nadel 1951: 75–87), and between ‘subjectivism’
and ‘objectivism’ (Bourdieu 1977, 1990). This might suggest that there are two different
types of collectivity, and hence two different modes of collective identification. In the
first, the members of a collectivity can identify themselves as such: they know who (and
what) they are. In the second, members may be ignorant of their membership or even of
the collectivity’s existence. The first exists inasmuch as it is recognised by its members;
the second is constituted in its recognition by observers. Nadel is, however, correct to
emphasise (1951: 80) that these are not two different kinds of collectivity. They are,
rather, different ways of looking at interaction, at ‘individuals in co-activity’. He is equally
right to insist that neither is more ‘real’ or concrete than the other: both are abstractions
from data about ‘co-activity’. These different kinds of abstraction provide the basis for
the fundamental conceptual distinction between groups and categories: category. A
class whose nature and composition is decided by the person who defines the category;
for example, persons earning wages in a certain range may be counted as a category for
income tax purposes.
Categories of substance or agency with which embodiment allows us to endow
individuals (something that was discussed in the context of Brubaker’s recent critique of
the concept of the ‘group’ in Chapter 1). It is not that collectivities lack reality or the
capacity to do things – if that were so they would be of little sociological interest – but
they differ in these respects from individuals. Similarly, the boundedness of a collectivity
is different in kind from the bodily integrity of an individual. Where a collectivity begins
and ends is not mappable using the sociometric equivalent of a dressmaker’s tape.
Nadel and Bourdieu also remind us that our necessarily systematised and carefully
drafted view of the human world is, after all, just that, a view. It is a necessarily abstract
and simplified view, which we should not mistake for reality; and, what is more, it is a
view that is always from a point of view. However, groups and categories are not just
sociological abstractions. Social scientists have no monopoly over processes of
definition and abstraction, of identification. Sociologists engage in the identification of
collectivities, but so does everyone else, in a range of everyday discourses and practices
of identification. The sociological definition of ‘group’, above, explicitly recognises this.
Group identity is the product of collective internal definition. In our relationships with
significant others we draw upon identifications of similarity and difference, and, in the
process, generate group identities. At the same time, our self-conscious group
memberships signify others and create relationships with them. Thus categorisation, no
less than group identification, is a generic interactional process, in this case of collective
external definition. I have, for example, already suggested that the identification of others
– their definition according to criteria of our adoption (which they may neither accept nor
recognise) – is often part of the process of identifying ourselves. More generally,
categorisation is a routine and necessary contribution to how we make sense of, and
impute predictability to, a complex human world of which our knowledge is always
limited, and in which our knowledge of other humans is often particularly limited. Our
ability to identify unfamiliar individuals as members of known categories allows us at
least the illusion that we may know what to expect of them. This is the specialist concern
of a branch of ethnomethodology that is concerned with the study of ‘membership
categorisation’ (Eglin and Hester 2003; Housley and Fitzgerald 2002; Leudar et al. 2004;
Stokoe 2003).
So, although in the strictest of senses groups and categories exist only in the eye
of the sociological beholder, the conceptual distinction between them mirrors generic
interactional processes, external and internal moments of collective identification:
group identification on the one hand, categorisation on the other. groups and categories
105 This means that groups and categories are something more than products of the
sociological imagination. But what? THE POWERS OF CATEGORISATION It is an article
of sociological faith for all but the most obdurate positivists that if people think that
something is real it is, if nothing else, real in terms of the action that it produces and in
its consequences. Therefore it is ‘socially’ and intersubjectively real. Deriving from W. I.
Thomas at Chicago in the early decades of this century, this injunction recommends that
sociologists not bother themselves too much with ontology and get on instead with the
pragmatic business of trying to understand the intersubjective realities in terms of which
people act. How people define the situation(s) in which they find themselves is thus
among the most important of sociological data. From this point of view, a group is
intersubjectively ‘real’.
However, a group that was recognised only by its members – a secret group –
would have a very limited presence in the human world. What’s more, its discovery (and
categorisation) by others would be perpetually immanent. Furthermore, even if secrecy
were maintained, such a group would necessarily be shaped to some extent by the
categorising gaze of others: one of its identifying features in the eyes of its members
would be precisely its freedom from external recognition. Thus categorisation by others
is part of the reality of any and every group. A category, however, is less straightforward,
since its members need not be aware of their collective identification. Here we must
focus on consequences. Can the extreme case – a category that is unrecognised by
those who are identified by others as belonging to it, and which has no impact upon their
lives – be said to have any reality? Such cases are not common; a category is not
generally a secret to its members. But there is no reason why it could not be. Among the
obvious possible examples are the classificatory schema of the social sciences.2 These
are often distant from the people to whom they refer, and their uses apparently arcane
and remote. It seems unlikely, for example, that anthropological debates concerning the
Nilotic peoples of the southern Sudan – about whether ‘the Nuer’ are a definite
collectivity in their own right, whether ‘the Nuer’ and ‘the Dinka’ 106 groups and
categories are separate collectivities, whether one is the other, or which one is which
(Burton 1981; Hutchinson 1995; Newcomer 1972; Southall 1976) – have been audible to
Dinka or Nuer themselves or have had any consequences for their lives. A similar point
could be made about sociological debates concerning the categorisation of populations
in terms of social class (Erikson and Goldthorpe 1993; Goldthorpe and Hope 1974;
Marshall et al.
1988; Savage 2000; Stewart et al. 1980; Wright 1985, 1989). It doesn’t seem likely
that technicians, for example, spend much time pondering whether they are members of
the ‘service class’, the ‘non-manual working class’ or some other analytical category.
However, these examples oblige us to return to an issue originally raised in Chapter 1 and
ask whether categorisation can ever be disinterested. In the first place, neither example
is wholly divorced from the people who are the objects of the classificatory exercise:
‘Nuer’ and ‘Dinka’ are locally recognised identities in Sudan, are part of the present
political landscape (embroiled in the conflict between the Khartoum regime and the
south) and earlier had resonance for colonial government (who also tried to ‘pacify’
them). Similarly, people in industrialised societies routinely identify themselves
according to class, and those identifications have implications for everything from voting
to courtship, housing and schooling choices – or their absence – and policing patterns.
The precise ways in which these categories are defined and refined may not be part of
the local common knowledge of the people to whom they are applied, but the categories
themselves are locally grounded. They are not secrets to their members. The role of
categorisation in the production of disciplinary power is also worth considering. Foucault
(1970, 1980), Hacking (1990) and Rose (1989) argue that the categorising, or
classificatory, procedures of the social sciences are part of the bureaucratic practices
of government of the modern state, and thus not wholly disinterested. Scientific notions
of ‘objectivity’ and ‘truth’ derive their epistemological power in part from their grounding
in procedures of categorisation. In turn, assumptions of objectivity and truth underpin
the bureaucratic rationality that is the framework of the modern state. The categorisation
of individuals and populations that is the stock in trade of the social sciences is one way
in which humans are constituted as objects of government and subjects of the state, via
censuses and the like.
The reference to taxation in the definition of ‘category’ quoted earlier was
apposite. More pointedly, ‘objective’ knowledge about the human world provides one
basis – whether that is its rationale or not – for the policing of families and the private
sphere which characterises the modern state (Donzelot 1980; Meyer 1983). groups and
categories 107 So, even the most apparently aloof categorisation is only apparently so.
Whether directly, via the commissioning, direction and use of social science research by
the state or other agencies, or indirectly, via the contribution of theory and research to
the fecundity and potency of the categorical point of view of government (Foucault’s
‘governmentality’), categorising people is always potentially an intervention in their lives,
and often more.3 Although they may not be aware of their categorisation, that they have
been categorised is always at least immanently consequential for a category’s members.
It’s more common that people know that they have been lumped together in the eyes of
others, but aren’t aware, or fully aware, of the content and implications of that
categorisation. A category may be recognised by its membership without its implications
for their lives being clear or obvious to them. We have probably all had the experience of
realising that we are being categorised in a particular fashion – in a new workplace,
perhaps, or on moving into a new neighbourhood – without knowing what this means in
terms of the responses or expectations of others. Imbalances of this kind may be
thoroughly institutionalised. Policies such as ‘normalisation’ and ‘empowerment’ may
encourage individuals with learning difficulties, for example, despite their awareness of
the general categories ‘retarded’, ‘stupid’, or whatever, to deny that these apply to them
(Davies and Jenkins 1996).
This consequence may be unintended, but the extent to which those
categorisations shape their lives and exacerbate the routine cruelties of the world are
nonetheless concealed. Both nominal and virtual are obscured. This highlights another
characteristic of categorisation. Group membership is a relationship between members:
even if they do not know each other personally, they can recognise each other as
members. Membership of a category is not a relationship between members: it doesn’t
even necessitate a relationship between categoriser and categorised. Any interpersonal
relationships between members of a category only involve them as individuals. Once
relationships between members of a category involve mutual recognition of their
categorisation, the first steps towards group identification have been taken.
Categorisers are the other side of the coin. Categorisation may be more significant for
categoriser(s) than for categorised. Our categories don’t have to be consequentially
‘real’ to the people to whom they refer in order to have consequences for us. Although
categorising others is one aspect of identifying ourselves, this need not involve explicit
notions of difference vis-à-vis ourselves and those others. Nor need we have any
expectations of them.
The examples of the Nuer–Dinka, or social class, can help again to 108 groups and
categories make the point. The most important themes of these categorisations are not
‘Nuer–Dinka are different from us anthropologists’, or ‘the working class are different
from us sociologists’ (although these sub-themes may be present). As aspects of their
disciplinary world-views, categorisations such as these do other kinds of identificatory
work for anthropologists and sociologists: recently, for example, Brubaker and Cooper
(2000; Brubaker 2004: 28–63) used the Nuer case to establish and highlight their own
differences from other social theorists of identity. Disagreements over categories may
produce boundaries internally, between different ‘sides’ of the argument: in the case of
class, for example, competing classificatory schema are associated with intra-
disciplinary groupings and sociological feuds of some longevity and bitterness. Another
example may further illustrate what I mean. Style is an arbiter of youth identities in
Western industrialised societies. One of the ways in which styles are delineated is
through the categorisation of music and musicians. In my youth, for example, questions
such as whether white musicians could play the blues, or whether Tamla-Motown
counted as soul, had an urgency which seems disproportionate only in retrospect: the
answers were a significant part of style and ‘who’s who and what’s what’. Thus the
categorisation of others is a resource upon which to draw in the construction of our own
identities. That categorisation has consequences, even if only trivial or immanent ones,
returns the discussion to the distinction between the nominal and the virtual. Collective
identification also has nominal and virtual dimensions. The nominal is how the group or
category is defined in discourse, the virtual how its members behave or are treated. As
with individual identification these are conceptually distinct. In practice they are
chronically implicated in each other, but there is no necessary agreement between them
Collective internal definition is group identification; collective external definition is
categorisation. Each is an inter-related moment in the collective dialectic of
identification, suggesting that neither comes first and neither exists without the other.
Identification therefore proceeds hand in glove with categorisation. Although it
makes figurative sense to talk about groups being constituted ‘in the first instance’ by
internal definition – after all, without their members relating to each other, and defining
themselves as members, there would be nothing to belong to – this should not be
misconstrued literally and chronologically, to mean first group identification, then
categorisation. There may, however, be situations in which group identification is
generated by prior categorisation. But although categorisation necessarily conjures up a
possible group identity, it doesn’t inevitably create an actual one. Marx understood this
when he talked about the difference between a ‘class in itself’ and a ‘class for itself’.4 He
argued that the working class is constituted in itself by virtue of the similar situation of
workers, their common alienation from the means of production within capitalism. By
virtue of their shared situation, workers have similar interests (i.e. things that are in their
interest). Marx argued that these interests cannot be realised until workers unite into a
class for itself and realise for themselves what their interests are. This, for Marx, signifies
the emergence of the working class as a collective historical agent. The process of group
identification encourages and is encouraged by class struggle. Subsequent refinements
of this model, particularly by Lenin in What Is to Be Done?, emphasised that class
struggle would not ‘just happen’ as a consequence of the conflict of interests between
classes; it has to be inspired or produced. Hence Lenin’s notion of the ‘vanguard party’,
and hence the need for politics. Whether or not we agree with this, it illustrates my
argument. Given appropriate circumstances, groups may come to identify themselves
as such because of their initial categorisation by others. The point is that there was no
class ‘in itself’ until its common interests were perceived and identified. The categorical
constitution of the working class as a class in itself with a situation and interests in
common – by socialists and other activists, on the one hand, and, as a ‘dangerous class’,
by capitalists and the state, on the other – was a necessary although not a sufficient
condition for the birth of the class for itself and, hence, for working-class politics (if not
necessarily revolution). Before the working class could act as a class, working people
had to recognise that it was – or they were – a class. In this recognition the working class
was constituted as a politically effective group. Distinguishing the necessary from the
sufficient suggests that for a category to be defined it must be definable. There has to be
something that 110 groups and categories its members share. In principle this can be
completely arbitrary. One could, for example, decide that all married persons with in-
growing toenails were a category. But would this ever amount to more than an abstract,
logical category? To become a category it would at the very least have to be recognised
by appreciable numbers of others. In order for that to happen the condition of being
married and suffering with in-growing toenails would have to possess some significance
to those others.
As for groups. Or, to come closer to the spirit of this discussion, it is as true for
categorisation as for group identification, since neither groups nor categories are
anything other than emphases within ongoing processes of identification. Two further
points flow from adopting this position. First, collective identities must always be
understood as generated simultaneously by group identification and categorisation.
How we understand any particular collective identity is an empirical matter, for
discovery. In one case group identification may be the dominant theme, in another
categorisation; but, as argued above, both will always be present as moments in the
dialectic of collective identification, even if only as potentialities. Second, identificatory
processes are practices, done by actually existing individuals. There is thus nothing
idealist about this argument. Collectivities and collective identities do not just exist ‘in
the mind’ or ‘on paper’. The distinction between groups and categories is an analogue of
the general processes of group identification and categorisation. Collective identities are
no less processual than individual identities, and group identification and categorisation
have practical consequences. Rather than reify groups and categories – as ‘things’ – we
should think instead about identities as constituted in the dialectic of collective
identification, in the interplay of group identification and categorisation. In any particular
case it is empirically a question of the balance between these processes. Group
identification always implies categorisation. The reverse is not always the case.
Categorisation, however, at least creates group identification as an immanent
possibility. groups and categories 111 THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE COLLECTIVE . . . AGAIN
Groups and categories are fundamental to the social psychology of identity inspired by
the work of Henri Tajfel (1970, 1978, 1981a, 1982; Tajfel and Turner 1979). Sometimes
these are distinguished from each other in the way that I have distinguished them here:
groups are defined by, and meaningful to, their members, while categories are externally
defined without any necessary recognition by their members (e.g. Turner and Bourhis
1996: 27–30). More consistently in this approach, however, the distinction between
groups and categories is weak and only implicit: a group is an actually existing concrete
point of reference for its members, while a category is a collectively defined
classification of identity, part of local common knowledge.
Rresultant ‘social identity theory’, and its immediate development
‘selfcategorisation theory’ (Turner 1984; Turner et al. 1987), can be summarised thus:5 •
‘Personal identity’, which differentiates the unique self from all other selves, is different
from ‘social identity’, which is the internalisation of, often stereotypical, collective
identifications. Social identity is sometimes the more salient influence on individual
behaviour. • Group membership is meaningful to individuals, conferring social identity
and permitting self-evaluation. It is a shared representation of who one is and the
appropriate behaviour attached to who one is. • Group membership in itself, regardless
of its context or meaning, is sufficient to encourage members to, for example,
discriminate against out-group members. Group members also exaggerate the
similarities within the in-group, and the differences between the in-group and out-group.
• Society is structured categorically, and organised by inequalities of power and
resources. It is in the translation of social categories into meaningful reference groups
that ‘social structure’ influences or produces individual behaviour.
Behaviour: cognitive simplification, comparison and 112 groups and categories
evaluation, and the search for positive self-esteem. These processes bring groups into
being. • The cognitive simplification that is required to manage the information overload
produced by a complex world generates stereotypes of collectivities and their members.
• Comparison and evaluation between groups is generically bound up with the
establishment and maintenance of in-group distinctiveness, in an interplay of internal
similarity and external difference. • Groups distinguish themselves from, and
discriminate against, other groups in order to promote their own positive social
evaluation and collective self-esteem. • Individuals and groups with unsatisfactory
social identity seek to restore or acquire positive identification via mobility, assimilation,
creativity or competition. • Moving from inter-group to intra-group matters, self-
categorisation theory focuses on the universal psychological processes that produce
group cohesion. Accentuating the in–out distinction, self-categorisation as a group
member – the internalisation of stereotypes – generates a sense of similarity with other
group members, and attractiveness or esteem. • Individuals, in using stereotypical
categories to define themselves thus, bring into being human collective life. • Individuals
will self-categorise themselves differently according to the contexts in which they find
themselves and the contingencies with which they are faced. This is merely a thumbnail
sketch of a complex and still growing body of research and literature that has become an
established social psychological paradigm in its own right (Brewer and Hewstone 2004;
Brown and Capozza 2006; Capozza and Brown 2000; Hogg and Abrams 2003; Robinson
1996; Worchtel et al. 1998). Nor does it do justice to the twists and turns along the way.
Tajfel, for example, in his last word on stereotyping (1981b), went beyond cognitive
simplification as an explanation, adding the defence or preservation of values, the
creation or maintenance of group ideologies, and positive in-group differentiation (see
Chapter 12 for a further discussion of stereotyping). As might be expected, three decades
of development have generated considerable debate about ‘social identity theory’,
within the approach itself and with external critics. One of the most pertinent issues
concerns the empirical underpinnings of Tajfel’s – and Turner’s – foundational
propositions.
Placed in otherwise meaningless groups by an experimenter, research subjects
tend to discriminate against members of the experimental out-group, even though they
stand to gain or lose nothing by doing so (Tajfel 1970; Tajfel et al. 1971). Questions have
been asked by both supporters and critics about whether ‘social identity theory’ can be
generalised beyond its experimental context (e.g. Maass et al. 2000; Skevington and
Baker 1989). To stick with the example above it may, for example, be at least partly
because a minimal group is a simplified, no lose–no gain situation that experimental
subjects discriminate against the out-group in this way. Within the checks and balances
of the everyday human world, in which actions have real consequences, choices are
likely to be more complex (or may not be available at all). More specifically, there are
questions about whether the evidence supports generalisations about themes such as
inter-group evaluation and bias (Crisp and Hewstone 1999; Hewstone et al. 2002), inter-
group negative discrimination (Migdal et al. 1998; Turner and Reynolds 2004), the
cognitive simplification effects of stereotyping (Oakes 1996: 98–100) and the
maximisation of self-esteem (Abrams and Hogg 2004; Rubin and Hewstone 1998;
Wetherell 1996: 277–280). It is obviously important to be clear, and cautious, about what
we can learn from laboratory experiments (which is not the same thing as rejecting
them). To a sociologist or social anthropologist, reservations about the minimal-group
approach seem to be uncontroversial: ambitious generalisations about large-scale
collective processes deriving from the investigation of micro-micro-level situations –
whether experimental or not – require considerable modesty in their formulation, even
when they are not completely unsafe. This issue has, however, been hard fought and has
yet to be accepted by most social psychologists, working as they do in a field in which
the experiment is still the gold-standard research design. From my point of view, there
are other criticisms of psychology’s ‘social identity theory’, not least its problematic
basic differentiation between personal and social identity (as discussed in previous
chapters). The equally fundamental problem of how to differentiate in this approach
between its own concepts of social categorisation in general and social identification in
particular shouldn’t be underestimated either (McGarty 1999: 190–196). What’s more,
despite Tajfel’s original ambitions, ‘social identity theory’ remains an individualist
perspective: groups are, at best, taken for 114 groups and categories granted as
simplified and reified features of the human landscape, actual interaction is largely
ignored, and identification appears to take place solely ‘inside people’s heads’. With
respect to interaction, the particular lack of attention to the emergence of identification
during talk and other discourse is noteworthy (Antaki and Widdecombe 1998; Billig 1996:
346–351), as is the frequent dependence on assumptions about weakly conceptualised
motivational factors such as ‘esteem’, ‘attraction’ and ‘liking’.6 These criticisms aside,
some recent writing within this paradigm resonates loudly with the arguments advanced
in this book. Deschamps and Devos (1998) have, for example, explored the relationship
between similarity and difference and ‘personal’ and ‘social’ identity, while Deaux (2000)
has looked at the range of motivations for social identification and the varying intensity
of group identification. Abrams’ account (1996) of how, depending on situational factors
and goal-orientations, selfidentification and self-attention may vary in their salience and
interact to produce self-regulation of varying intensity, suggests fruitful lines of inquiry
into the hows and whys of identification’s variability.
The minimal group experiments suggest that group identification is one of those
generic processes and is in itself a powerful influence on human behaviour. • These
experiments further suggest that categorisation, in my definition – i.e. external
identification, the process of placing people, in this case arbitrarily, into collectivities –
is also an important generic process, which can contribute to group identification. • The
approach understands collective identification as not just an internal group matter, but
as coming into being in the context of inter-group relations: thus groups identify
themselves against, and in their relationships with, other groups. • ‘Social identity theory’
also recognises that collective identifications are real for individuals – that they mean
something in real experience – and seeks to understand how that reality works. Probably
more to the point are personal factors, the nature of the discipline in question, and the
power of normal science. Reading his own words and what his ex-students say about him
– even when, like Billig (1996), they now seem to be at odds with much of his intellectual
legacy – Tajfel’s influence as a teacher and that of the force and direction of his
intellectual leadership shine through. He seems to have been trying to establish a
distinctive school of thought.
The context for that project was an academic disciplinary field, psychology, in
which natural science, rooted in the laboratory, held sway (even today, ‘humanist’
approaches remain a peripheral minority interest, often located outside mainstream
psychology departments). Tajfel himself was committed to the natural science model: it
isn’t obvious that anthropology, for example, or the work of Goffman would have
interested him. Finally, once established, the social identity and social categorisation
theorists pursued their work within a taken for granted normal science paradigm. Most
of them don’t seem to have seen 116 groups and categories any need to look elsewhere
for ideas: the work they had in hand was enough, and the networks self-sustaining. Nor,
to be fair, should this mini intellectual history single out for comment only the social
psychologists. After all, what goes on within groups, and how their members identify
themselves, is also a function of what goes on between groups. And there is no evidence
that the anthropologists showed any interest in, or were aware of, what Tajfel and his
followers were doing (almost certainly for reasons similar to those that I have just
sketched in). With little communication between the two camps, their relationship, if it
can be called that, seems to have been characterised by distance and mutual ignorance
rather than stoutly defended boundaries. ‘Trade barriers’ weren’t necessary. Which was
a shame: each might have benefited from talking to the other. That they didn’t, however,
is no more than might have been expected: they simply got on with doing their own stuff.
It’s a tribute to the force of disciplinary identifications and boundaries that, by and large,
it’s what they’re still doing today.
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