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The Pastor as Counselor Lesson 4: Incarnational Ministry – Listening and Empathy
he art of listening can be a challenge for pastors who are often occupied (or even preoccupied)
with sermons, board meetings, their own pain, and a host of other issues. Nevertheless, church
members must feel confident that their clergy will listen to them, especially in times of need.
Skilled pastors not only listen, but they listen actively. Active listening involves empathy—the
ability to set aside personal thoughts, feelings, and agendas in order to enter into another
person’s world. Such listening enables one to see other people’s concerns from their
perspectives. Pastors with strong personalities or those whose main focus is on something else,
find this especially difficult. Compassionate, active listening can be foreign to pastors, too,
because they sometimes have not often themselves been recipients of good listening. To be a
good pastor and minister to the flock, one needs to learn how to listen and listen actively.
Trained to listen
One difficulty with active listening is that this topic has not gained prominence in theological
education. Pastors enroll in extensive education in order to exegete and preach; listening skills
are, it seems, just assumed. Because few people naturally know how to preach, pastors are
required to take homiletics. Clergy are also required to take biblical and theological courses to
develop exegetical skills. Yet how many are taught the art of listening?
Listening, a complex skill, seldom comes naturally. For example, Jesus spoke of His crucifixion
many times, but His disciples did not seem to be very good listeners for they missed the point.
Contemporary pastors may feel they are good listeners, but are likely limited in their listening
skills unless they have intentionally cultivated them.
Anne Long wrote a book entitled, Listening,1 that can help pastors listen to others, to themselves,
and even to God. Books on listening usually encourage people to set aside personal bias,
agendas, busyness, natural inclinations to speak, and to listen more than seems natural.
Listening requires discipline and education. A book such as Basic Attending Skills2 would be a
good source to help pastors improve their listening skills. Some of the basics of listening include
honest eye contact, attentive body language, appropriate vocal style, and a relaxed attitude.
A barrier to effective listening is that it is not typically rewarded, as are activities such as
baptisms, fundraising, and good sermons. Also, pastors, being knowledgeable, are tempted to
speak more than to listen. Pastoral insecurity and the need to appear competent or in control can
be another barrier to effective listening. Pastors may also fear their own pain or the pain of
others, and, therefore, be uncomfortable with “merely” listening.
Caring hearts, not talking heads
When pastors are in situations where they do not know how to relate or what to say, they can feel
helpless. The sense of helplessness may also lead to superficial speaking that minimizes careful
listening. As a hospital chaplain, pastor, and human being, I have especially felt such
helplessness when I have watched people die or observed a medical team try to revive someone.
During such times, people need a listening, compassionate heart more than a talking, intellectual
head that most likely speaks in superficial platitudes or worse.
During one pastorate, I was on a mission to build a new sanctuary. An older member voiced her
strong disagreement, arguing that the old facility was just fine. Listening helped me realize that
her disagreement was, partially, a desire to share the many memories of baptisms, funerals, and
weddings at the old church. I had to set aside my agenda in order to listen to her. This took time,
yet as I actively listened to her recount these many memories, her opposition to the new building
started to wane.
Listening becomes especially vital when people experience pain. Because we have experienced
similar situations, we commonly assume that that we understand them. Typically, people console
others by saying, “I know how you feel” or “I understand what you are going through.” Such
phrases can leave the other person feeling especially alone and misunderstood. Such statements
may even minimize another person’s pain. More appropriate, you might say, “I can not imagine
what you are experiencing right now, but I want you to know that I am here for you and am open
to listening if you would like to share your experience.”
In one recent case, an elderly lady was devastated when her husband died in a car accident.
During the funeral service, a faithful church member tried to console the bereaved woman by
saying, “I know how you feel; my son was hit and killed by a car two years ago.” The church
member meant to help, but did she express empathy to the older woman or did her own life
perspective get in the way? It was the latter, for sure. No situation is ever identical, no matter
how similar they may seem. People are all different and may react quite differently to seemingly
similar tragedies.
At the same time, suppose this grieving wife came to her pastor? How helpful would it be if the
minister replied by discussing the existence of God, the reality of evil, the notion of God’s love,
or some other form of apologetics? Not much. The widow did not ask for a systematic theology
of human suffering; she needed a caring, listening ear. In such a case, sermonizing becomes
inappropriate. In contrast, listening, actively listening, is not only appropriate but crucial.
Listening communicates human care, which demonstrates divine care. Listening shows concern
by action rather than words.
Listen, listen, listen, listen
As a young pastor I remember being quick to defend God, yet slow to listen to God’s people.
Active listening, identified as hard work, requires one’s full focus and takes enormous mental
energy. Pastors may have heard and understood the words of someone, but did they really
understand what they felt and how these feelings impacted their life? Active listening involves
trying to identify a person’s emotions and concerns, but without communicating the idea that we,
somehow, know what they are feeling and going through. And that’s because so often we do not
understand what they are going through, nor could we ever.
Any ideas that we have about what others are experiencing are only guesses. This realization
should help us to clear our minds of preconceptions and allow us to be tentative in how we
approach others. Listening includes being careful in what we say and may involve using such
words as, “I am not certain what you are experiencing, but I imagine that this is a difficult time
for you. Can you help me understand more of what you are going through?” Those we serve in
ministry know best what they are feeling; thus, we need to listen to them more than they need to
listen to us.
Pastors are in an elevated position to care and listen. No other professional caregiver has such
intimate access to people’s personal lives. This unique role of caring must be maximized by
active, empathic listening. “Listen, listen, listen, then listen some more before taking action or
giving advice.”3 Listening earns one the right to speak.
Listening is demanding, yet also a tremendous gift. Listening requires humility. Philippians 2:3,
4 says, “Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let
each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests,
but also for the interest of others” (NKJV). Active listening requires giving up self for someone
else, accepting others, respecting others, and encouraging others to keep on talking.
A primary component of listening includes avoiding changing the topic; listening also means
being comfortable with difficult issues, such as death, anger, pain, confusion, and guilt. People
sometimes feel the need to shift difficult conversations to more optimistic topics. Pastors are
often too quick to speak, quote Bible texts, pray, and switch to what they feel the Lord would
have people feel, think, or say. Often the last thing people need is someone changing the topic
from what weighs them down with grief and concern to something that they care nothing or little
about at the moment.
Another component of good listening includes awareness of cultural, personality, gender,
religious, and other differences. For example, eye contact among some Southwest Native
Americans may represent a hostile act, the physical distance between two speakers may vary
from culture to culture (people from the Middle East tend to have less distance between them
than many westerners are accustomed to), and vocal tones and speeds vary among cultures.4 We
need to avoid stereotyping, yet it is helpful to be aware of differences in communication.
“Tell me about . . .”
Depending on the culture and the situation, there are also times to speak (Eccles. 3:7). Skilled
counselors need to understand theories, methodologies, and be able to speak confidently and
wisely in order to intervene during times of psychological and spiritual trauma. Nonetheless,
most clergy could probably improve their ministries by speaking less and listening more.
Training in counseling intervention strategies would be a bonus; yet, in the end, the foundation
of caring includes having good listening skills.
An enormously useful phrase to encourage others to open up and share is, “Tell me about . . .”
This phrase is useful in numerous contexts. Some examples, “Tell me about your ailing mother,
your child in trouble, your academic stress, your tears, when you learned you had cancer, your
loneliness.” I have used this phrase to connect with numerous people. I remember a lady
devastated by her father’s death from cancer. By simply saying, “Tell me about your dad,” I
opened the windows of emotion and ministry. Saying “Tell me about . . .” is openended and
promotes active listening.
Empathy and listening
Empathy and listening are the master key to one’s door of life which the pastor should use, in
order to gain entrance into the heart of people and help them from within. The most important
thing to be understood is that there can never be better emphatic practice without a listening
aspect, also listening will never be effective without empathy. These two are interwoven in
pastoral ministry. Empathy is the understanding of emotional feelings of others. It is the
mirroring of feelings of someone’s suffering.
Gill Hasson says “mirror neurons are distinctive brain cells that fire not just when you perform
an action, but also when you use or hear others carry out an action too”
it is the identifying as well as me experiencing of the emotional feeling of other people .Michael
Jacobs defines empathy as the ability to identify with how others might be feeling.
Understanding intuitively how the others might be feeling. Empathy or identification means the
ability to put one’s self in someone’s shoes, to get into the skin, to experience what they might be
experiencing.
It is believed that empathy and sensitivity come hand in hand; you cannot be empathetic and be
insensitive. It is also note that people who show empathy towards others as they tell their stories
are known to be better pastors, parents, community leaders. Deeper level of rapport with church
members and trust are granted and maintained through the use of empathetic rhythms in all
walks of life human kind cannot afford to live without it because of emotional turbulence caused
by different things in life there will be no joy, peace, harmony as well as emotional healing if
there is no empathy in human lives.
Empathy is like a pain killer to the sufferer when it’s properly applied. The good news to all
pastors and church leaders is that empathy can be learned. The key skill that you need as a pastor
is to be one of these emotional intelligent people. Having empathy simply means that you are
willing to try and understand someone’s situation, their point of view, their true feelings; you are
interested in one’s situation and as a pastor readiness to respond to their needs and feelings
without dismissing them and judging them. .When we put ourselves in the other person’s place
we’re less likely to want to put him in his place.
As a Christian, you should practice empathy
Christians are called to restore those who have sinned in a spirit of gentleness. The 6th Chapter
of Galatians spells out the importance of this vital Christian act. It is, however, an aspect of
Christian practice that is very lacking in much of Christianity today.
Sin is often very simple to spot for a Christian. We are really conditioned to see it, call it out, and
admonish it. There were some who modeled this behavior in Matthew 26:6–13; Mark 14:3–9;
Luke 7:36–50; John 12:1–8. The stories reflect different details, but the core teaching is that very
religiously-minded people observed behavior they deemed sinful and were quick to call out the
disgrace with great indignation. In the righteous condemnation of sin, there no attempt to
understand the sinner, comprehend the whole situation, or show compassion toward those
involved.IIn other words, they failed to confront the sinner in a spirit of gentleness.
Jesus, on the other hand, models a different behavior. He is fully aware of the sinful past of the
woman in question, but chooses not to address her past in any way. Rather, he embraces her for
who she is in the moment with a genuine understanding of her true needs. This woman needed
forgiveness and acceptance rather than punishment and condemnation for her sins.IJesus restored
this sinner in a spirit of gentleness.
In Galatians, the Biblical writer calls on Christians to do more than restore the sinner in a spirit
of gentleness. The text also cautions against falling into temptation and requires Christians to
bear one another’s burdens. This caution and requirement also go hand-in-hand when it comes to
a genuinely Christian approach to sin.
The temptation Scripture warns against is the legitimate desire to admonish, punish, and force
the sinner into repentance. It is an easy trap because it appears logical and practical. One does
something wrong and it deserves punishment. If the sinner wants to avoid future punishment,
fear of the punishment should serve as a deterrent to the sin in the first place. The worse the sin,
the greater the punishment. It makes logical since, except for the fact that it does not work. If
punishment was a means of overcoming sin, the prison system would not be overflowing and
crime rates would be minimal.
Rather than fall in the trap of believing that punishment—either human punishment or calling on
God’s divine punishment—is necessary for ending sin, the model of the New Testament relies on
a far more Godly response. God calls on Christians to show empathy. Empathy lies at the heart
of Christ’s response to sinners. Empathy is the focus of Galatians. Empathy is the message of
Christian witness. However, empathy is also very lacking in much of modern Christianity.
True empathy has nothing to do with judgment or punishment. Rather, it intentionally cultivates
an awareness of another person’s reality, an attempt to develop a genuine understanding of the
perspective from which another person comes, works to personally identify with the other
person, and then prayerfully respond to the situation in a spirit of gentleness borne out of
walking with, and showing empathy for, the person’s true humanity. Empathy is taking on
another’s burdens and validating the whole humanity of that one out of God’s love for that
person. As followers of Christ, part of the authentic witness of the church is to extend empathy,
not judgment or punitive measures. Empathy also serves to restore sinners far more effectively
than the presumption of punitive measures. Empathy is our call in Christ.
Listen With Empathy
Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speakand slow to become angry. James 1:19
Sometimes I catch myself parsing another’s words to make sure he is not saying something
untrue about me. My desire for his precision (or probably perfection) in speech is really a smoke
screen for my own insecurities in feeling disrespected. My pride and ego are bruised when I am
dinged by revealing accurate assumptions about my motivations. Instead of quickly defending
myself, I am learning to listen more and speak less. Listen with empathy to another’s heart. What
is really behind her words? How can I learn from what she feels and become a better version of
me?
James understood the danger of mindlessly spouting off unfiltered opinions in contrast to
disciplined thinking governed by God’s Word. The Scripture is the source of the Spirit’s wisdom
and discernment. When someone asks “what do you think”, filter your words with, what does the
Bible say about this? Listen first to what the Lord says about a matter and your words that follow
will build up not tear down. Empathy born out of humility is the most helpful way to speak
truth.I
“If you keep talking, it won’t be long before you’re saying something really wrong. Prove you’re
wise from the very start—just bite your tongue and be strong” (Proverbs 10:19, TPT)!
When a friend or spouse honestly asks about your actions or inactions, how do you reply? If
being defensive is your default, ask yourself, before you speak, how can I respond with empathy,
to truly understand and learn how to love better? For example, your spouse may say, I don’t feel
like you really hear what I am saying. A non-defensive, empathic response would be, I’m sorry
for not paying attention as I should, please forgive me and let’s have a do over, so I can really
listen and understand you. To listen with empathy is to engage, comprehend and confirm what
another person just said. To have a caring conversation does not mean you agree with everything
discussed. But it does mean your empathy provides a safe environment for all to speak freely.
Anger shuts down relational trust, so hit the emotional pause button and pray before you say
something you later regret. Pride and ego do not like to be questioned, while humility invites
clarity and correction. To listen with empathy is to really know the other person and affirm her
feelings. Affirmation is not agreement, but when someone feels understood, it builds trust and
respect, which becomes fertile ground for relational intimacy. Empathic listening shows love!I
“Teach me, and I will be quiet; show me where I have been wrong” (Job 6:24).
Prayer
Heavenly Father, give me ears to hear with a heart of empathy, through Christ’s love and in
Jesus’ name, amen.
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