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This is a graded discussion: 30 points possible

due May 28

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Prompt:

Which of the theories - realism, liberalism, constructivism, and

radicalism - do you think best explains the recent developments

in Ukraine? Or, do you think not one theory but a combination of

theories help us better explain the developments? Why? Give

reasons.

Required reading for this Essay:

1. Chapter 3

2. Realism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ)

3. Liberalism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbDMUaqwE8

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbDMUaqwE8)

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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbDMUaqwE8)

4. Constructivism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYU9UfkV_XI

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYU9UfkV_XI)

5. Exploring the Ukraine Conflict through International Relations Lenses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKfB7ih-edo

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKfB7ih-edo)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKfB7ih-edo)

(In this video, I am discussing Ukraine confict with two of my colleagues

from FSCJ and UCF. We are mainly applying Realism and Libearlism to

our analysis of the conflict. It was recorded about a month ago.)

(You are welcome to use other resources, but do not use online

learning resources like lumens learning, Wikipedia, study.com,

Khan Academy, Quizlet, etc. You must use resources from

reputable outlets like New York Times, Guardian, BBC, etc.)

Assignment Details:

Your initial posting should be two paragraphs long and 200-250 words

(10 more words fine), excluding citations and references. It should

present your compelling response to the above prompt and provide

strong evidence from the sources listed above to support your position.

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strong evidence from the sources listed above to support your position.

You should then make at least one posting, 100-150 words, that engage

your peers' ideas/arguments.

Part I: Initial Post worth 20 points

Write an original post (similar to a short essay) with at least two

paragraphs that include sources and proper APA or Chicago or MLA

citations and references.

*You must post the initial essay by Thursday. Penalty of 10% for

late initial posts.

Part II: Follow up posts worth 10 points

Write at least one substantive posts which must be a compelling

response to one of your peers' (initial) posts. It MUST be a substantive

reply (remember, this is your opportunity to demonstrate your

understanding of the material and earn the highest grade possible).

Do not just write laudatory responses to your peers, challenge them

and their arguments....move the discussion forward

*No discussion postings will be accepted after the deadline,

Saturday, 11:59 PM.

A Few Words of Advice...

Your argument should not be based on unfounded, preconceived

beliefs. Statements that start with or include "I believe that..." are only

valid to the extent that they are followed and supported by well-cited,

compelling evidence from reliable sources.

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As with the other discussions in this class, your personal opinion on

the issue at hand does not matter for grading purposes. (Our

grading is not influenced by your political leanings). The point of this

discussion is to think about the (above) prompt and argue your point in

a thoughtful manner, using evidence to support your position and/or to

argue against your peers' position(s).

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Zubaidah Al-Amear (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/60316)

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I'm not an objective observer here, but these worrisome developments

have underlined the realistic position on international politics' lasting

relevance to me. However, All realism theories picture a world in which

no agency or institution can protect states against one another, and

nations must be concerned about whether a hazardous aggressor would

attack them in the future. This condition causes states, particularly large

powers, to be concerned about their security and struggle for power.

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powers, to be concerned about their security and struggle for power.

Sadly, these anxieties can sometimes lead to states doing terrible things.

The invasion of Ukraine by Russia reminds realizes that countries can act

in awful and dumb ways when their vital security interests are in danger.

Although this lesson does not justify such action, realists understand that

moral censure alone will not prevent it. Unfortunately, the battle also

exemplifies another fundamental realist concept: the "security problem."

The problem arises because efforts are taken by one state to improve its

security often make others less secure. State A feels threatened and

looks for allies or buys more weapons; State B is concerned and

responds in kind, suspicions grow, and both countries end up poorer and

less safe than before. Given their long-term fears about Russia, it was

understandable that Eastern European countries desire to join NATO.

(Greaney, Alec. “Ukraine Wanted to Join NATO's Alliance for Years. NBC

Chicago) However, it should be clear why Russian officials, not just Putin,

found this development frightening. It is now sadly evident that the risk

was not worthwhile. In conclusion, Realism was the theory that explains

the situation in Ukraine.

Reference

1. Greaney, Alec. “Ukraine Wanted to Join NATO's Alliance for Years. What

Stopped It?” NBC Chicago, NBC Chicago, 26 Apr. 2022,

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/ukraine-

wanted-to-join-natos-alliance-for-years-what-stopped-it/2813488/

(https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/ukraine-

wanted-to-join-natos-alliance-for-years-what-stopped-it/2813488/) .

2. “Exploring the Ukraine Conflict through International Relations

Lenses.” YouTube, YouTube, 14 May 2022,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKfB7ih-edo.

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Jeromy Wilson (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/90905)

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Hi Zubaidah, I agree with you about how the states go back and forth

with escalating the threats postured towards each other. The only way

forward I can see is for people who understand both sides

motivations extensively to come up with a solution on grounds of

moral authority and act on it. Maybe Russia strengthens trade with

and supports building infrastructure in Ukraine in return for a signed

agreement to stay out of NATO and the EU? That won't exactly work,

but it's better than open warfare. Anyways, nice post.

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Victoria Blanchard (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/74628)

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The International Relations theories that best describes the recent

developments in Ukraine are realism and constructivism. Realism is a big

part of the recent developments because Ukraine is going through the

reality of it; the people of Ukraine have to watch their families die and

leave their cities for safety. Russia made this decision as a power move

because they believe their core interests were in jeopardy. Realists want

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to be independent and do not care for harmony among states. Russia

does not think that other nations should feel threatened by them or feel

as if they were to attack them in the future.

Constructivism is reality is not absolute but subjective, it is not based on

simply material factors. Russia's leaders did not tell the truth to their

soldiers when this all started, the soldiers believed they were simply

doing some kind of training. Russia lost tons of men and weapons but

continue to push into Ukraine. Constructivism represents how the

Russians are thinking. Putin still thinks that the old Soviet Empire should

be put back together despite what other countries want. Many western

countries believe it to be liberalism, but that is not it completely.

Liberalism is creating conflict or cooperation. Russia wants something

that can only be acquired by conflict. (213)

Sources:

soomopublishing. (2011, May 4). Theory in action: Realism. YouTube.

Retrieved May 25, 2022, from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKEFSVAiNQ)

soomopublishing. (2011, June 10). Theory in action: Constructivism.

YouTube. Retrieved May 25, 2022, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?

v=kYU9UfkV_XI

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Jeromy Wilson (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/90905)

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According to the neo-realists, the situation in Ukraine appears to be a

move towards the unipolar system of power, driven by each state or

country's desire for safety by means of accumulating the most power.

There is also the clear willingness of Russia to engage in conflict, and

their reputation is noted by other former soviet union states, as places

like Poland are fearful of being annexed like Crimea, and chances are

that if Russia saw the same level of support by pro-Russian citizens, they

might actually do just that.

There is also the fact that Russia is so resistant to the west or any of

it's ideas leads me to believe that, although a combination of theories is

likely to blame, realism appears to be the most applicable. Primarily the

idea of a state serving it's own interest for immediate gains. There are

multiple organizations such as NATO that Russia wants nothing to do

with. They seem to be interested in self preservation and self sufficiency.

Their independence from organizations and the general lack of

willingness to compromise as much as many other nations do is

evidence of their goals. They only appear to work with those who align

with them politically. Turkey is a great example of that.

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Frances Martinez (She/Her) (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/121800)

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Jeromy,

I do agree that historically, Russia has been a willing state to pursue

war and conflict for their best interest. The U.S.S.R. being a prime

example and Putin being very clear after Crimea that "if you

compress spring all the way to it's limit, it will snap back hard. You

must remember this." However, do you think that Putin is unhinged,

and uncalculated or that maybe, this attack isn't much of a surprise?

Of course, Russia wants nothing to do with NATO since the main

reason it was created was to protect against possible attacks from

then Germany and the Soviet Union after World War II. What's even

more terrifying is that the Putin mindset is eerily similar to

Stalingrad's, who had Marxist ideals. Realism, in my opinion, is not

the only theory at play. Thoughts?

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Frances Martinez (She/Her) (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/121800)

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Looking at all of the core aspects of the theories we have discussed thus

far, it is difficult to conclude that the Russia and Ukraine conflict would

be best explained within one theory. On this basis, it seems that Realism

is the main theory at play in this conflict due to the belief that a state

increases their power through war and conquest, which is currently in

force. Using the Liberal theory as an example where the ideology is that

individuals are "basically good and capable of cooperation", isn't a moral

compass one could say Putin abides by, given his actions. Putin initially

stated that he was moving in on the basis of running a "special military

operation". Putin later said that he "wants the deNazification of Ukraine."

In other words, he wants to change the system of government and rule in

place. This is also shown with his claim that he "believes Ukraine is an

illegitimate country on land that belongs to Russia". We could also bring

in that Constructivism is involved in some aspects, such as Russia

altering its actions to seem as a legitimate state. Marxism, under the

umbrella of Radicalism, puts into perspective the imperialism that Russia

is perpetuating. The impacts of this conflict are being felt around the

world, with gas prices skyrocketing, and inflation reaching records far

beyond what we have seen historically. The disruption of this region

poses an even more dangerous possibility, the shift of nuclear powers

and an unpredictable time in history.

References

https://www.vox.com/2022/2/23/22948534/russia-ukraine-war-putin-

explosions-invasion-explained "Russia's war in Ukraine, explained." Kirby,

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explosions-invasion-explained "Russia's war in Ukraine, explained." Kirby,

Jen and Guyer, Jonathan. March 6, 2022.

https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-

speech-declare-war "Putin's "NAZI" rhetoric reveals his terrifying war

aims at Ukraine"; Beauchamp, Zach. February 24, 2022.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-

politics/2022/2/23/22945781/russia-ukraine-putin-speech-

transcript-february-22 (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-

politics/2022/2/23/22945781/russia-ukraine-putin-speech-transcript-

february-22) "Why is Putin attacking Ukraine? He told us." Beauchamp,

Zach. February 23, 2022.

Essentials of international relations, Chapter 3, 9th edition. Mignst A.

Karen; McKibben Elko, Heather.

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Joselyn De La Cruz (She/Her) (https://canvas.fscj.edu/courses/56644/users/121547)

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In recent developments, the Russia-Ukraine conflict displays a

combination of realism and liberalism theories. Realist behavior can be

found in Russia’s unjust and unprovoked declaration of war toward

Ukraine. “87 people were killed after Russian troops fired four missiles at

the village of Desna and Russia is attempting to “destroy as many people

and infrastructure as possible” (Villegas). Due to recent attacks, there has

not been a clear explanation of when this war will end. Russia shares

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realist characteristics by displaying power-seeking interests and

insecurity due to the potential relative loss with Ukraine. From a realist

perspective, power is gained through war or by taking it away from other

states to help contribute to the goal of fundamental security (Mingst 71).

Ukraine shares liberalism characteristics such as being a rational state,

good relations, and developing peace with other countries can lead to

more potential allies. Countries like Denmark, the Czech Republic, and

many more have sent ordnance, aircraft, military training, and assistance

to help aid Ukraine (Demirjian). Russia can see that Ukraine is a smaller

democratic state and could potentially lead to a rise of allies or possible

membership in groups such as NATO or the EU. As of today, Ukraine is

not a part of those major group alliances. Due to Ukraine's location,

strong western liberal influences can attract Ukraine which leads to

Russia feeling insecure or attacked of having an enemy in such proximity.

If Ukraine were to join either NATO or the EU then that would most likely

escalate and agitate Russia even more. Even though Ukraine is not a part

of these organizations, fellow countries such as the United States and

other NATO affiliated countries send support through arms, intelligence,

and strategy to combat Russia. “The Biden administration and NATO,

playing geostrategic catch-up, have dramatically increased the flow of

U.S. arms to Ukraine and it clearly has benefited the defenders" (Bosco).

Works Cited

Bosco, J. (2022, May 24). Biden and NATO must help Ukraine get its

wheat to the world. The Hill. Retrieved May 25, 2022, from

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3498895-biden-and-nato-must-

help-ukraine-get-its-wheat-to-the-world/

Demirjian, K. (2022, May 23). International Military Aid for Ukraine

accelerates, Pentagon says. The Washington Post. Retrieved May 23,

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2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-

security/2022/05/23/ukraine-security-assistance/

Firozi, P., Villegas, P., Pannett, R., Pietsch, B., Timsit, A., Hassan, J., &

Chapman, A. (2022, May 23). Russia-Ukraine War live updates: Russian

soldier convicted of war crime - one of 13,000 probes, says Ukrainian

official. The Washington Post. Retrieved May 23, 2022, from

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/23/russia-ukraine-war-

news-live-updates-putin/

Mingst, K. A., & McKibben, H. E. (2021). International Relations Theories.

In Essentials of International Relations (pp. 71–73). essay, W. W. Norton &

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Hello Professor and Class,

The theory that best explains the recent developments in Ukraine is

realism. This theory explains that states will relentlessly seek power and

security because they exist in a self-help system. Nation-states can

engage in conflict for autonomy and security, and to promote their

national interests (Thayer, 124). Many people have been dying in Ukraine,

but there have not been peace talks. International organizations such as

the UN and EU have not played an active role in the Ukraine war. Nation-

states such as Russia and Ukraine have been involved in the war for

political interests, and they have been the main actors of the war. Russia

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political interests, and they have been the main actors of the war. Russia

entered the war due to its national interests.

President Putin stated that his goal was to prevent Western influence and

ensure that Ukraine does not join NATO (Kirby, 1). Russian ministers

explained that the future of Russia was at stake. Realism theory would

explain the developments in Ukraine the best because the Russians

wanted to protect their national interests. They held felt threatened by

the increasing westernization of Ukraine. Realism theory explains that

humans are selfish, and they have a strong desire for power. Russia had a

strong desire for military power, but not ethics. This led to the killing of

many Ukrainians in an effort to gain military power and protect national

interests of the state.

Works Cited

Kirby, Paul. "Why has Russia invaded Ukraine and what does Putin

want." BBC News (2022).

Thayer, Bradley A. "Bringing in Darwin: Evolutionary theory, realism, and

international politics." International Security 25.2 (2000): 124-151.

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