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HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
How Netflix Reinvented HR by Patty McCord
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heryl Sandberg has called it one of
the most important documents
ever to come out of Silicon Valley.
It’s been viewed more than 5 million times
on the web. But when Reed Hastings and I
(along with some colleagues) wrote a
PowerPoint deck explaining how we shaped
the culture and motivated performance at
Netflix, where Hastings is CEO and I was
chief talent officer from 1998 to 2012, we
had no idea it would go viral. We realized
that some of the talent management ideas
we’d pioneered, such as the concept that
workers should be allowed to take whatever
vacation time they feel is appropriate, had
been seen as a little crazy (at least until
other companies started adopting them).
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Crafting a Culture of Excellence
But we were surprised that an unadorned
set of 127 slides—no music, no animation—
would become so influential.
People find the Netflix approach to talent and culture compelling for a few reasons. The
most obvious one is that Netflix has been really successful: During 2013 alone its stock
more than tripled, it won three Emmy awards, and its U.S. subscriber base grew to nearly
29 million. All that aside, the approach is compelling because it derives from common
sense. In this article I’ll go beyond the bullet points to describe five ideas that have
defined the way Netflix attracts, retains, and manages talent. But first I’ll share two
conversations I had with early employees, both of which helped shape our overall
philosophy.
The first took place in late 2001. Netflix had
been growing quickly: We’d reached about
120 employees and had been planning an
IPO. But after the dot-com bubble burst and
Culture from Reed Hastings
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Netflix founder and CEO Reed Hastings discusses the company’s unconventional HR practices.
HBR: Why did you write the Netflix culture deck? Hastings: It’s our version of Letters to a Young Poet for budding entrepreneurs. It’s what we wish we had understood when we started. More than 100 people at Netflix have made major contributions to the deck, and we have more improvements coming.
Many of the ideas in it seem like common sense, but they go against traditional HR practices. Why aren’t companies more innovative when it comes to talent management? As a society, we’ve had hundreds of years to work on managing industrial firms, so a lot of accepted HR practices are centered in that experience. We’re just beginning to learn how to run creative firms, which is quite different. Industrial firms thrive on reducing variation (manufacturing errors); creative firms thrive on increasing variation (innovation).
What reactions have you gotten from your peers to steps such as abolishing formal vacation and performance review policies? In general, do you think other companies admire your HR innovations or look askance at them?
the 9/11 attacks occurred, things changed. It
became clear that we needed to put the IPO
on hold and lay off a third of our employees.
It was brutal. Then, a bit unexpectedly, DVD
players became the hot gift that Christmas.
By early 2002 our DVD-by-mail subscription
business was growing like crazy. Suddenly
we had far more work to do, with 30% fewer
employees.
One day I was talking with one of our best
engineers, an employee I’ll call John. Before
the layoffs, he’d managed three engineers,
but now he was a one-man department
working very long hours. I told John I hoped
to hire some help for him soon. His response
surprised me. “There’s no rush—I’m happier
now,” he said. It turned out that the
engineers we’d laid off weren’t spectacular—
they were merely adequate. John realized
that he’d spent too much time riding herd
on them and fixing their mistakes. “I’ve
learned that I’d rather work by myself than
with subpar performers,” he said. His words
echo in my mind whenever I describe the
most basic element of Netflix’s talent
philosophy: The best thing you can do for
employees—a perk better than foosball or
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My peers are mostly in the creative sector, and many of the ideas in our culture deck came from them. We are all learning from one another.
Which idea in the culture deck was the hardest sell with employees? “Adequate performance gets a generous severance package.” It’s a pretty blunt statement of our hunger for excellence.
Have any of your talent management innovations been total flops? Not so far.
Patty talks about how leaders should model appropriate behaviors to help people adapt to an environment with fewer formal controls. With that in mind, how many days off did you take in 2013? “Days off” is a very industrial concept, like being “at the office.” I find Netflix fun to think about, so there are probably no 24-hour periods when I never think about work. But I did take three or four weeklong family trips over the past year, which were both stimulating and relaxing.
free sushi—is hire only “A” players to work
alongside them. Excellent colleagues trump
everything else.
The second conversation took place in 2002,
a few months after our IPO. Laura, our
bookkeeper, was bright, hardworking, and
creative. She’d been very important to our
early growth, having devised a system for
accurately tracking movie rentals so that we
could pay the correct royalties. But now, as a
public company, we needed CPAs and other
fully credentialed, deeply experienced
accounting professionals—and Laura had
only an associate’s degree from a
community college. Despite her work ethic,
her track record, and the fact that we all
really liked her, her skills were no longer
adequate. Some of us talked about jury-
rigging a new role for her, but we decided
that wouldn’t be right.
So I sat down with Laura and explained the
situation—and said that in light of her
spectacular service, we would give her a
spectacular severance package. I’d braced
myself for tears or histrionics, but Laura
reacted well: She was sad to be leaving but recognized that the generous severance would
let her regroup, retrain, and find a new career path. This incident helped us create the
other vital element of our talent management philosophy: If we wanted only “A” players
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on our team, we had to be willing to let go of people whose skills no longer fit, no matter
how valuable their contributions had once been. Out of fairness to such people—and,
frankly, to help us overcome our discomfort with discharging them—we learned to offer
rich severance packages.
With these two overarching principles in mind, we shaped our approach to talent using
the five tenets below.
Hire, Reward, and Tolerate Only Fully Formed Adults
Over the years we learned that if we asked people to rely on logic and common sense
instead of on formal policies, most of the time we would get better results, and at lower
cost. If you’re careful to hire people who will put the company’s interests first, who
understand and support the desire for a high-performance workplace, 97% of your
employees will do the right thing. Most companies spend endless time and money
writing and enforcing HR policies to deal with problems the other 3% might cause.
Instead, we tried really hard to not hire those people, and we let them go if it turned out
we’d made a hiring mistake.
Adultlike behavior means talking openly about issues with your boss, your colleagues,
and your subordinates. It means recognizing that even in companies with reams of HR
policies, those policies are frequently skirted as managers and their reports work out
what makes sense on a case-by-case basis.
Let me offer two examples.
When Netflix launched, we had a standard paid-time-off policy: People got 10 vacation
days, 10 holidays, and a few sick days. We used an honor system—employees kept track
of the days they took off and let their managers know when they’d be out. After we went
public, our auditors freaked. They said Sarbanes-Oxley mandated that we account for
time off. We considered instituting a formal tracking system. But then Reed asked, “Are
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companies required to give time off? If not, can’t we just handle it informally and skip the
accounting rigmarole?” I did some research and found that, indeed, no California law
governed vacation time.
So instead of shifting to a formal system, we went in the opposite direction: Salaried
employees were told to take whatever time they felt was appropriate. Bosses and
employees were asked to work it out with one another. (Hourly workers in call centers
and warehouses were given a more structured policy.) We did provide some guidance. If
you worked in accounting or finance, you shouldn’t plan to be out during the beginning
or the end of a quarter, because those were busy times. If you wanted 30 days off in a
row, you needed to meet with HR. Senior leaders were urged to take vacations and to let
people know about them—they were role models for the policy. (Most were happy to
comply.) Some people worried about whether the system would be inconsistent—
whether some bosses would allow tons of time off while others would be stingy. In
general, I worried more about fairness than consistency, because the reality is that in any
organization, the highest-performing and most valuable employees get more leeway.
We also departed from a formal travel and expense policy and decided to simply require
adultlike behavior there, too. The company’s expense policy is five words long: “Act in
Netflix’s best interests.” In talking that through with employees, we said we expected
them to spend company money frugally, as if it were their own. Eliminating a formal
policy and forgoing expense account police shifted responsibility to frontline managers,
where it belongs. It also reduced costs: Many large companies still use travel agents (and
pay their fees) to book trips, as a way to enforce travel policies. They could save money
by letting employees book their own trips online. Like most Netflix managers, I had to
The company’s expense policy is five words long: “Act in Netflix’s best interests.”
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have conversations periodically with employees who ate at lavish restaurants (meals that
would have been fine for sales or recruiting, but not for eating alone or with a Netflix
colleague). We kept an eye on our IT guys, who were prone to buying a lot of gadgets. But
overall we found that expense accounts are another area where if you create a clear
expectation of responsible behavior, most employees will comply.
Tell the Truth About Performance
Many years ago we eliminated formal reviews. We had held them for a while but came to
realize they didn’t make sense—they were too ritualistic and too infrequent. So we asked
managers and employees to have conversations about performance as an organic part of
their work. In many functions—sales, engineering, product development—it’s fairly
obvious how well people are doing. (As companies develop better analytics to measure
performance, this becomes even truer.) Building a bureaucracy and elaborate rituals
around measuring performance usually doesn’t improve it.
Traditional corporate performance reviews are driven largely by fear of litigation. The
theory is that if you want to get rid of someone, you need a paper trail documenting a
history of poor achievement. At many companies, low performers are placed on
“Performance Improvement Plans.” I detest PIPs. I think they’re fundamentally
dishonest: They never accomplish what their name implies.
One Netflix manager requested a PIP for a
quality assurance engineer named Maria,
who had been hired to help develop our
streaming service. The technology was new,
and it was evolving very quickly. Maria’s job
was to find bugs. She was fast, intuitive, and
hardworking. But in time we figured out
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how to automate the QA tests. Maria didn’t like automation and wasn’t particularly good
at it. Her new boss (brought in to create a world-class automation tools team) told me he
wanted to start a PIP with her.
I replied, “Why bother? We know how this will play out. You’ll write up objectives and
deliverables for her to achieve, which she can’t, because she lacks the skills. Every
Wednesday you’ll take time away from your real work to discuss (and document) her
shortcomings. You won’t sleep on Tuesday nights, because you’ll know it will be an awful
meeting, and the same will be true for her. After a few weeks there will be tears. This will
go on for three months. The entire team will know. And at the end you’ll fire her. None of
this will make any sense to her, because for five years she’s been consistently rewarded
for being great at her job—a job that basically doesn’t exist anymore. Tell me again how
Netflix benefits?
“Instead, let’s just tell the truth: Technology has changed, the company has changed, and
Maria’s skills no longer apply. This won’t be a surprise to her: She’s been in the trenches,
watching the work around her shift. Give her a great severance package—which, when
she signs the documents, will dramatically reduce (if not eliminate) the chance of a
lawsuit.” In my experience, people can handle anything as long as they’re told the truth—
and this proved to be the case with Maria.
When we stopped doing formal performance reviews, we instituted informal 360-degree
reviews. We kept them fairly simple: People were asked to identify things that colleagues
should stop, start, or continue. In the beginning we used an anonymous software system,
but over time we shifted to signed feedback, and many teams held their 360s face-to-
face.
HR people can’t believe that a company the size of Netflix doesn’t hold annual reviews.
“Are you making this up just to upset us?” they ask. I’m not. If you talk simply and
honestly about performance on a regular basis, you can get good results—probably better
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ones than a company that grades everyone on a five-point scale.
Managers Own the Job of Creating Great Teams
Discussing the military’s performance during the Iraq War, Donald Rumsfeld, the former
defense secretary, once famously said, “You go to war with the army you have, not the
army you might want or wish to have at a later time.” When I talk to managers about
creating great teams, I tell them to approach the process in exactly the opposite way.
In my consulting work, I ask managers to imagine a documentary about what their team
is accomplishing six months from now. What specific results do they see? How is the
work different from what the team is doing today? Next I ask them to think about the
skills needed to make the images in the movie become reality. Nowhere in the early
stages of the process do I advise them to think about the team they actually have. Only
after they’ve done the work of envisioning the ideal outcome and the skill set necessary
to achieve it should they analyze how well their existing team matches what they need.
If you’re in a fast-changing business environment, you’re probably looking at a lot of
mismatches. In that case, you need to have honest conversations about letting some
team members find a place where their skills are a better fit. You also need to recruit
people with the right skills.
We faced the latter challenge at Netflix in a fairly dramatic way as we began to shift from
DVDs by mail to a streaming service. We had to store massive volumes of files in the
cloud and figure out how huge numbers of people could reliably access them. (By some
estimates, up to a third of peak residential internet traffic in the U.S. comes from
customers streaming Netflix movies.) So we needed to find people deeply experienced
with cloud services who worked for companies that operate on a giant scale—companies
like Amazon, eBay, Google, and Facebook, which aren’t the easiest places to hire
someone away from.
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Our compensation philosophy helped a lot. Most of its principles stem from ideals
described earlier: Be honest, and treat people like adults. For instance, during my tenure
Netflix didn’t pay performance bonuses, because we believed that they’re unnecessary if
you hire the right people. If your employees are fully formed adults who put the
company first, an annual bonus won’t make them work harder or smarter. We also
believed in market-based pay and would tell employees that it was smart to interview
with competitors when they had the chance, in order to get a good sense of the market
rate for their talent. Many HR people dislike it when employees talk to recruiters, but I
always told employees to take the call, ask how much, and send me the number—it’s
valuable information.
In addition, we used equity compensation much differently from the way most
companies do. Instead of larding stock options on top of a competitive salary, we let
employees choose how much (if any) of their compensation would be in the form of
equity. If employees wanted stock options, we reduced their salaries accordingly. We
believed that they were sophisticated enough to understand the trade-offs, judge their
personal tolerance for risk, and decide what was best for them and their families. We
distributed options every month, at a slight discount from the market price. We had no
vesting period—the options could be cashed in immediately. Most tech companies have a
four-year vesting schedule and try to use options as “golden handcuffs” to aid retention,
but we never thought that made sense. If you see a better opportunity elsewhere, you
should be allowed to take what you’ve earned and leave. If you no longer want to work
with us, we don’t want to hold you hostage.
We continually told managers that building a great team was their most important task.
We didn’t measure them on whether they were excellent coaches or mentors or got their
paperwork done on time. Great teams accomplish great work, and recruiting the right
team was the top priority.
Leaders Own the Job of Creating the Company Culture
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After I left Netflix and began consulting, I visited a hot start-up in San Francisco. It had 60
employees in an open loft-style office with a foosball table, two pool tables, and a
kitchen, where a chef cooked lunch for the entire staff. As the CEO showed me around, he
talked about creating a fun atmosphere. At one point I asked him what the most
important value for his company was. He replied, “Efficiency.”
“OK,” I said. “Imagine that I work here, and it’s 2:58 PM. I’m playing an intense game of
pool, and I’m winning. I estimate that I can finish the game in five minutes. We have a
meeting at 3:00. Should I stay and win the game or cut it short for the meeting?”
“You should finish the game,” he insisted. I wasn’t surprised; like many tech start-ups,
this was a casual place, where employees wore hoodies and brought pets to work, and
that kind of casualness often extends to punctuality. “Wait a second,” I said. “You told
me that efficiency is your most important cultural value. It’s not efficient to delay a
meeting and keep coworkers waiting because of a pool game. Isn’t there a mismatch
between the values you’re talking up and the behaviors you’re modeling and
encouraging?”
When I advise leaders about molding a corporate culture, I tend to see three issues that
need attention. This type of mismatch is one. It’s a particular problem at start-ups, where
there’s a premium on casualness that can run counter to the high-performance ethos
leaders want to create. I often sit in on company meetings to get a sense of how people
operate. I frequently see CEOs who are clearly winging it. They lack a real agenda.
They’re working from slides that were obviously put together an hour before or were
recycled from the previous round of VC meetings. Workers notice these things, and if
they see a leader who’s not fully prepared and who relies on charm, IQ, and
improvisation, it affects how they perform, too. It’s a waste of time to articulate ideas
about values and culture if you don’t model and reward behavior that aligns with those
goals.
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The second issue has to do with making sure employees understand the levers that drive
the business. I recently visited a Texas start-up whose employees were mostly engineers
in their twenties. “I bet half the people in this room have never read a P&L,” I said to the
CFO. He replied, “It’s true—they’re not financially savvy or business savvy, and our
biggest challenge is teaching them how the business works.” Even if you’ve hired people
who want to perform well, you need to clearly communicate how the company makes
money and what behaviors will drive its success. At Netflix, for instance, employees used
to focus too heavily on subscriber growth, without much awareness that our expenses
often ran ahead of it: We were spending huge amounts buying DVDs, setting up
distribution centers, and ordering original programming, all before we’d collected a cent
from our new subscribers. Our employees needed to learn that even though revenue was
growing, managing expenses really mattered.
The third issue is something I call the split personality start-up. At tech companies this
usually manifests itself as a schism between the engineers and the sales team, but it can
take other forms. At Netflix, for instance, I sometimes had to remind people that there
were big differences between the salaried professional staff at headquarters and the
hourly workers in the call centers. At one point our finance team wanted to shift the
whole company to direct-deposit paychecks, and I had to point out that some of our
hourly workers didn’t have bank accounts. That’s a small example, but it speaks to a
larger point: As leaders build a company culture, they need to be aware of subcultures
that might require different management.
Good Talent Managers Think Like Businesspeople and Innovators First, and Like HR People Last
Throughout most of my career I’ve belonged
to professional associations of human
resources executives. Although I like the
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people in these groups personally, I often
find myself disagreeing with them. Too many devote time to morale improvement
initiatives. At some places entire teams focus on getting their firm onto lists of “Best
Places to Work” (which, when you dig into the methodologies, are really based just on
perks and benefits). At a recent conference I met someone from a company that had
appointed a “chief happiness officer”—a concept that makes me slightly sick.
During 30 years in business I’ve never seen an HR initiative that improved morale. HR
departments might throw parties and hand out T-shirts, but if the stock price is falling or
the company’s products aren’t perceived as successful, the people at those parties will
quietly complain—and they’ll use the T-shirts to wash their cars.
Instead of cheerleading, people in my profession should think of themselves as
businesspeople. What’s good for the company? How do we communicate that to
employees? How can we help every worker understand what we mean by high
performance?
Here’s a simple test: If your company has a performance bonus plan, go up to a random
employee and ask, “Do you know specifically what you should be doing right now to
increase your bonus?” If he or she can’t answer, the HR team isn’t making things as clear
as they need to be.
At Netflix I worked with colleagues who were changing the way people consume filmed
entertainment, which is an incredibly innovative pursuit—yet when I started there, the
expectation was that I would default to mimicking other companies’ best practices (many
of them antiquated), which is how almost everyone seems to approach HR. I rejected
those constraints. There’s no reason the HR team can’t be innovative too.
A version of this article appeared in the January–February 2014 issue of Harvard Business Review.
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Patty McCord is the founder of Patty McCord Consulting and the former chief talent officer at Netflix.
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