art 315 Issues in Contemporary Art

Shoot. I paused the recording. Anyway. If you did the if you, if you look at that one article, it mentioned something about his background. Augustine's background as a Jew from the Ukraine and his family fleeing, fleeing discrimination in the home country. So there was that aspect to it, but I ran across another okay. Sorry about that. I did run across another article that talked about his time as a youth in LA and interactions that he had as a Jewish teenager with the KKK. So it actually was not something that was outside of his life experience. I didn't expect you to know that, but I thought I would share that if you weren't aware of it. Okay. So anyway, last time we met, we talked about the 990 three Whitney Biennial. This idea of identity politics and the kind of controversy over politics and art versus aesthetics. For lack of a better, a better way to describe it. As I said, that 990 three Whitney was a real watershed moment in contemporary art because things changed quite a bit. After that. What I would say, actually, the way I would describe it is that artists following that Whitney, following that 93, Whitney became quite gun shy of expressing themselves in any way. That's smacked identity politics. And I can actually attest to that as a graduate student at the time and how the climate kind of really changed. I'm not sure that it's necessarily a bad thing. I don't know that people were, were silenced. Although at the time, people were very much artists and other cultural workers were very much talking about a chilling effect in the art world. And the fact that artists, not just visual artists, were artists across all genres. Felt. Or less free to express themselves the way they want it. So I am going to show you my PowerPoint, which is relative to readings from or for tonight. Again, I like that image. So that the one article I gave you was called the mirror the other. And this image is a work by Lowry stoke Sims, barnacles by law we stoke Sims. And it refers to in psychology what is known as the mirror stage. So I don't know if any of you have taken psychology classes or if you're at all familiar with this. But the key here is this idea that as we develop as individuals, our first sense of individuality comes when we see a reflection of ourselves in the mirror this way, it's called the mirror stage. The person who sort of named this and identified it and discussed it, is a French psychologist named Jacques Lacan LA CAN, and it's called the mirror stage. In this particular piece, this photograph addresses that, this idea, the woman is saying, looking into the mirror, the black woman asked Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fineness of the mall? The mirror says, Snow White, you black *****, and don't you forget it. So what the article talks about is this idea that we're actually encountering a lot these days, which is that representation matters. And so to begin, I just want to talk about why representation matters. I mean, I think we have some obvious, obvious ideas as to why representation matters. But there are also kind of scholarly discussions about it. And one is this idea of the mirror stage, which is that the society around, around, around us helps inform who we see ourselves as, right, and how we define ourselves. And so it's important that the society reflect us, meaning ourselves as individuals. In ways that actually derived from our experiences. Okay, So actually I'll go back to the idea of the panopticon. Remember the, the, the prison guards in the center and then everybody, all the cells out to the periphery. So the idea is you don't just have one source of information, but you have multiple sources that are allowing for a full a full sense of or a full range of information. We'd looked at. We looked at this piece. Actually, I think we, we we looked at this piece. And this is the same artist. Oh my God, I can't believe I'm blanking on her name. Oh, actually because it's two different RD. Sorry. So this is this is all Lowry stoked Sims. And then this is **** it. I'll come back. I'll, I'll remember. Anyway. So you remember when we looked at this image, we talked about how the artist is offering us words with these images. And essentially asking us how the image affects how we, how we understand the word, right? Obviously implying slavery and such. Now this is a different artist and this is the name that I'm trying to remember. If she's actually I'm Lorna Simpson. This is the thank you. Lorna Simpson did this piece called wigs. And what she's doing, obviously, she's showing hair pieces for African-American women or hair pieces African-American women wear. And the idea here, and what these artists are doing is dealing with this issue of representation right there, wanting to put images out there that affirm an African American identity. And then I went, oops, I put this, this image and just to remind you of the artists, Adrian Piper. Remember she did these drawings with ads from the New York Times playing on the idea of white people, sphere of black people. But the, the work that I wanted to show you is this piece of hers called my colleague white. And let me, I'll give you a minute to read it while I yell at my dog, hang Okay. So I don't know if you recall, but actually, I don't think I have. Adrian Piper is mixed race. And so she's fair-skinned and oftentimes people would just assume that she's white. And that's what she's commenting on with this piece. Which is that like our basketball analogy. A women's, women's basketball and men's basketball. There's a white normative. So because she did not appear to people to be obviously black, they assume she was white. And then, as she says in her, in her card here, you know, that fact exposed to a lot of races kind of experiences. And so this is, like I said, the piece is titled my calling card, and it was an actual calling card that she carried with her that she would, she would give to people. This is a painting by someone whose work I enjoy. His name is Robert Scott. And this particular painting is called The Alabama. I don't know if you guys pick up the reference. I hope you do because it's very funny. This is a reference to Picasso's painting. They, myself, Debbie knew, which was a sort of cubist painter portrait of these women. But anyway, cause Scott does these really interesting paintings and this is George Washington Carver crossing the Delaware. What calls God is doing with these, with these paintings. Again, with this idea of representation is, he is pointing out in a humorous way how African Americans have been systematically excluded from, from this history. So demos Aldebaran young, he's obviously talking about contemporary art and the lack of African-American presence there. And then also the lack of African American presence in history. American American history. So the first article talks a lot about representation, about this based on this idea of the mirror image from the con. And then I also gave you, I don't know why it keeps doing that. I gave you an article by Cornell West. If you've taken any kind of courses, you probably have heard of him. Or even if you watch CNN, he's often the scholar that they go to to talk about race issues, African-American issues. Sorry. And so this is, this is the issue of representation that we're talking about. And this is from 1990. So this is being written at the time of all of this kind of identity politics in Art, among other things, which we're going to talk about. The Modern Black diaspora, problematic of invisibility. A nameless NAS can be understood as the condition, relative lack of black power to represent themselves, to themselves and others as complex human beings. And thereby the contest, the bombardment of negative degrading stereotypes put forward by white supremacist ideologies. I think an important aspect to note about this is the representation of themselves to themselves. So we're not just talking about images that go out to the broader society, but it's images that you see of yourself. And that's where the very first image that I showed you about, snow White and the mirror is really kind of hard-hitting because it is reminding us that how we see ourselves has a lot to do with how society sees us, right? And then that is an important reason why all of these artists of color, women artists, gay artist, why they're telling their stories is because they want, they want to represent themselves to themselves and to other people with the kind of complexity that they, that they embody. Not just these kind of stereotypes or simple ideas that we might see in the media. Anyway. So that's kind of the gist of the Cornell West article, but obviously he goes much more in depth. There's a history there. There's a lot of other information behind the kind of main idea. And this is 0. This is a quote. You may have seen it. I think this came around came out around the time of George Floyd or Charlottesville. I'm not sure. But the idea of representation, especially like in the 990 three Whitney was not, I mean, granted, there was definitely Angry, Angry work in that 1993 Whitney. But the point I think of that anger was not necessarily directed at, you know, it wasn't destruction. It wasn't about destruction, it was about exclusion. And to represent oneself does not mean at the cost of someone else's representation, right? And that's why I feel like this. This quote is a good kind of summary of that representation question. Okay? So one of the things that we see around this time, lots of, lots of things are going on. So our I think it's kind of like a flash point at this period in time. And it lets us see what is happening in one of the things that starts to occur as a level of censorship and a discussion of censorship. But actually, as I'm going to show you here, has occurred in the past. But I guess not really in a way that was conclusive because the issues were coming up again. So I'm showing you a conclusion from Roth v. United States. You can see is from 950 seven. And this was one of the major court cases that involved this idea of obscenity and defining obscenity and the relationship of obscenity to free speech, OK, to the First Amendment. And it's very interesting, I don't know if you all realize this. But the Supreme Court determined that it is within the purview of the government to determine or to decide what is obscene and therefore, what can be shared socially and whatnot. In this particular case, Roth v. United States, it had to deal had to do with materials being sent in the mail. And while the second sentence there. And then I'm going to go into the next case. The court determined that the test of whether materials were obscene was whether to the average person applying contemporary community standards. The dominant theme of the material as a whole, appealed to prurient interests. Meaning, what would your average person be offended right, by, by the content of this material? And if so, then it would be deemed obscene. So you can see that that's a problem if you are not the average person, right? If you don't fall into that realm of, you know, sort of average or normal. You know, what, what happens then? And here. So this is very specific history of the application of laws designed to suppress the, I've seen demonstrates convincingly that the power of government, the power of government can be invoked under them against great art or literature, scientific treatises or works exciting social controversy. Mistakes of the past prove that there's a strong countervailing interests to be considered in the freedoms guaranteed by the first 14th Amendments. So, in other words, you know, these these are issues that can be can be brought to the court and can be considered at a federal and a federal level. Anybody happen to recognize this image? Do you know the artist? Nobody. It's probably this image is less, it's not wonder of his more famous images. Whereas this one is, anybody know the artist now? Or maybe you don't know how to spell it. So this is Robert Maple Thorpe. And the reason that I'm showing you this in the context of obscenity and court cases, is that a very famous case occurred in the early nineties. I think it was actually 990 where the city of Cincinnati sued the Contemporary Art Center for exhibiting Robert Maple Thorpe work. And the thing is that Maple Thorpe. He was a photographer and you can see, I went into photography because it seemed like the perfect vehicle for commenting on the madness of today's existed. So just like any other artist, he was addressing the times, the world around him. It's just so happens that he was gay. He had later in life contracted aids that he, that he ended up dying of. But his work addressed his his world. And the bullwhip photograph was as much his world as the the Lily lily photograph. But at the time, people, enough people, at least in the city of Cincinnati, were concerned about the nature of the work and called it into question as I've seen. And so here I'm starting another case for you, Miller v. California. You can see from 1973. And this is very interesting. The standard that's being set for how, you know, the log determines what is obscene or not. So it's three there are three criteria. One we saw that comes from route Roth, whether the average person applying contemporary community standards would find that work taken as a whole appeals to the prurient interest rate per year. It means, wow, what's a good way? Distasteful isn't really the right word for it. Prurient means like that it applies to really base kind of are more evil, evil propensities. Something like that. Be whether the work depicts are described in a patently offensive way. Sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, right? Because state law, state laws to prohibit certain sex acts like sodomy. And see whether the work taking us a whole lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. So you can see there are real issues with the way these criteria are put forward. This idea of community standards and what is offensive. And then this idea of literary, artistic, political, or scientific value, right? That was the question that we, we looked at last time. This issue of quality, right? And so what was happening in the 1993 Whitney was that people were questioning the quality of the work. They were looking at the work and Saying it lacked what? Item C there says lack serious artistic value. And I think one of the things around that 93 Whitney is that because the criticisms of it were so vehement. They were so they were loud and they were everywhere. I think it really allowed people to feel free to condemn that type of work, or at least to criticize it. But as in the case with this Mapplethorpe exhibit, that criticism actually came to result in legal action, right? I mean, ultimately, the case was it wasn't dismissed, but the jury found the Contemporary Art Center and the, and the curator not guilty. So I hesitate to say that more level heads prevail. And there was not there was not any obscenity. Identify or determine in this case. Okay. So another another artist whose work came up at this time. And I think at least one person mentioned this. Mentioned this in his, in his essay. This is undress Serrano. Whoops. Okay, Sorry, I don't know what happened there. So people did not necessarily have an issue with this piece until they they saw the title of it. So Jack, you want to tell us what the title of this pieces? Yeah. It's called His Christ. Christ. I mean, yeah. Okay. And why is it called Why is it called Christ? Because it is a large plastic container filled with the artist. And there's a little plus that Jesus inside of it. Yes. Thank you. So I mean, you can, you can understand how this was offensive to Christians in particular, right? I mean, under Serrano actually did a whole series of work around or with bodily fluids. So this was not unique in that. But it was. It was controversial. And here's, here's his take on it. Since this work, since it works by the abstraction, I was also amazed and please if the fluids have life of their own, but when people ask why use fluids, first of all, I feel I'm painting with light and the fluids, besides being symbolic of life's vital fluids loaded with meaning also give me beautiful light, right? So, I mean, there is this formal aspect to his work. Formal, as in the formal qualities of a work. The visual, the visual kind of physical qualities of it, right? But, you know, what people were seeing was an icon of their, of their faith being submerged in urine. And so that was that was controversial. It did not actually result in a court case like the Maple Thorpe exhibition did. But it was very controversial at the time. And I just don't have it too. Show you this reference image. This is by the painter Paul Gauguin. And under Serrano talks about this as a kind of inspiration for his **** Christ image, which is, I think Gauguin actually titled this yellow Christ. So it is very clearly related. But again, this image does not have the same implications as, as the other one. But really if you want to go there, I mean, you can also question, you know, what our issue is with bodily fluids. Right? But I won't I won't engage that necessarily. Okay. So another thing that happens around this time is what has become known as the NEA. For the NEA, as you probably are aware, is the National Endowment for the Arts. And in 990, actually, I think it was maybe a little bit later, but in the early nineties, for performance artist Karen Finley, John Fleck, Holly Hughes, and Tim Miller were awarded individual artist grants by the National Endowment for the Arts. National Endowment for the Arts. However, let me get to my however, before I show you the images. However, the I can't remember who initiated it. But there were conservative members in Congress who found out about the work. And I mean, probably the most famous of these was Jesse Helms from North Carolina. But what happened was these artists were awarded the grant and then Congress took them away. Jesse Helms and company said that the work was obscene, right? And we and we just looked at what the legal precedent was regarding obscenity. And they, they took the money, they took the grant money away from the artists. Now the artists in turn suit, right? They said we, you set out getting this money. A panel of experts, you know, Jerry, the work and decided it was it was worthy of NEA grant. And now you're saying it's not. So they sued. And then this is I'm just going to show you images of the artists. This is Holly Hughes. This is a piece by Tim Miller. This is John Fleck. And this is maybe the most notorious of the four, Karen Finley. Now the other three artists are all gay and their work performance artists. The other three are all gay and their work all addresses life as a gay person or aspects of gay life. And Karen Finley is a feminist activist. And this image is from the piece that was most discussed in this obscenity trial. And it involved her rubbing or coding her nude body in chocolate. So if nothing else, these congressmen lacked a sense of humor. But clearly they felt that this was against Community Standards of obscenity. And actually so this is just more information for you about what happened here. Three of the rejected artists or gain deal with homosexual issues in their work. The fourth, Karen Finley and outspoken feminist, the endowment had been under attack since 1989 for funding supposedly lewd work. For rejected artists have continually been singled out by conservatives in the past. The national campaign for freedom of expression, along with other groups, have rerouted NEA funds and other money to help support and fight for the artists. A spokesperson for the NEA said this would be a direct violation of grant regulations. So anyway, you can see. This was a petition by Karen Findley at all. The NEA for 1998. The short of it is that the artist did have their grant returned to them. So in court, they, they won. They won there. They won their case. However, the more consequential result of this case, which we live with today was the end of NEA funding for individual artist. Okay, that's, that is a big deal. You know, those of you who are artists understand the importance of grant money to artists who need it to do work. And at the time, the National Endowment for the Arts was one of the major funders for individual artist. And then finally, this case, given all of the arguments and discussion around what is obscene, what is an obscene? They they just did not They just did not. The NEA actually agreed. They didn't want to deal with it anymore. It's just like, how can we, how can we support individual artists and then constantly be questioned and scrutinized for our decisions. So what happens now these days is that money, NEA funding now goes to organizations. And the organizations are then responsible for doling it out to appropriate recipients. So that is a very huge consequence of this climate in the arts at the time of the early 90's. Again, keep in mind, I mean, we are talking about the Reagan era. So I mean, this was a very conservative time in anyways politics. And then here's just an interesting quote from Karen Finley. Keep in mind too, that this is all very contrary to what the popular opinion of art is, right? At the time, or actually even maybe still. And then opinion of art has to do with modernism, right? And this kind of what is special about the artist and what is special about the work of art. And none of, none of this work or these artists fit into into that mold or conform to those ideas. So Howard presiding is a cultural, this, a cultural critic, is an art critic, writer about art. And this is the takeaway, his takeaway from the 990 three Whitney. To be irrelevant artist today it seems one must espouse a political ideology. This ideology must be the obvious subjective ones are. The shift has usually occurred at expensive, the formal, the formal being equated with the aesthetic. So really what happens at this time is that there's very much a kind of false dichotomy established between form and content, right? Meaning this work that is regarded as identity politics is all content and no form. Because if it had formed that there would be aesthetic value to the work, right? But you know what really, getting back to the issue of representation, you know, what really is at stake here is what is considered aesthetic, right? When we have artists who are basically saying that there are other forms of aesthetics which may involve political ideology. But that view of aesthetics does not jive with popular ideas from modernism, which is still an overriding or overarching belief in what art is and should be. So again. So we have this kind of conflict, Our, this dichotomy between form and content. And if we go with that, form wins out basically. So I just wanted to wait, let me go back. This isn't the best place for this slide. So Jesse Helms, I said was the senator that was spearheading a lot of this. But so these ideas. A form and content are, according to the Guerrilla Girls, are really kind of misguided. And into Guerrilla Girls Form date, they point out these statistics that show that while maybe this Whitney Biennial showcase a lot of, a lot of work that was regarded as political. By enlarge the art world is still a conservative place, right? And that's why that's what this Guerrilla Girls piece addresses. Okay, So obviously, one way that we can look at the change is to see what happens with the following Whitney in 995. And I think I did mentioned this last time that the following Whitney was much more conservative. I can't remember where this came from. I don't know if it was from the catalog, but yes. So we can oh, there it was from art form. No matter what you think about much of the work that's talking about the 995 Whitney. The curator, Curtis, premised on art. Above all, looks good, right? So we're talking aesthetics. This isn't to say that brains and build your brand never come in the same package. But rather to observe that this bi-annual reinstates the old form versus content dichotomy. Given protests as a framework, there isn't one piece in the biennial that angrily strives to make a marginalized voice heard that confronts, implicate, defeats or condemns. Right? So basically we're going back to the way things work. Okay? I say, Okay, that you've said your piece. Now, let's go back to our the way we we know I didn't like it. And so yes, there was a ton of painting in this Whitney. And also, I don't have the statistic in front of me. But there is a very interesting statistic about the age of the artist. The average age of the 990 three Whitney was like 27 or something. Yeah. Those were young artist. The average age in this 995 Whitney I think was like in the forties. So a lot of the artists were already pretty well established. And definitely the work. Is more kind of like art oriented for lack of a better expression. Anyway. So this is a painting by Katherine Katherine Murphy. We do I have all right. Never mind. I won't go there. This is gosh, I don't know how old she would've been in 1995, but this is a painter named Agnes Martin. Actually do really enjoy her work. Older artist, you can see abstract work. But into modernist fashion. She talks a lot about nature. And now natures and inspiration for what she dies. This is Bryce Martin. We get a lot of this kind of organic abstraction. This is Philip calf. He's considered, or I guess his era of painting is called decorative painting. But not in a pejorative sense. And then this is sort of to my mind, the king of the organic abstraction is Terry winters. Back in the day he was really one of my painting heroes. This is not one of my favorite pieces of his. But these are all fairly large, large works me carrying winters as paintings. I like wall, wall size. Philip TAP also. This guy. You might see some of this work at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Because he wears a crown. Now you threw me off site wildly. Site wildly. Has these huge abstractions. And he has the work in the Philadelphia Museum of Art. It's based on a Greek mythology. Okay, so just, I'm going to get back to Jack's question about what makes cherry winners King. Abstract, organic, abstract expressionism. I think he, at the time, his name was synonymous with, with that kind of painting. I mean, I think when people talked about it, talked about kind of organic abstraction. He was, he was the man. And also, interestingly, graduate programs in art, MFA programs. I find often have types. And one of the, one of the types was this kind of organic abstraction. Allah, Terry Winters. And I would often see at least one of them and various MFA programs. So anyway, I'm not sure if that makes him king necessarily, but he was definitely definitely a force. Oh, and I love this because this artist, and I'm going to show you a couple of other artists also who were in both Whitney's. So the 93 Whitney and this 95 Whitney. I can't remember who helped me out last time. I think it was Adam. I showed a painting by Sue Williams, who's this artist in 93 Whitney. She had these kind of kind of cartoony images, also text addressing issues around domestic abuse. And more broadly. No issues related to women. Now in 995, she's back in the Whitney. So to Whitney's in a row. But we have this work which is much more abstract in nature. So I actually don't know anything about this piece. I mean, just looking at the at the imagery. It probably is not far removed from the concerned she's had previously. It's just that it's less maybe in your face about it. This is Sue Williams. And I think that as a point to be taken when I talk about how things change after the 93 Whitney and this particular period in time. It's not that identity politics per se goes anywhere or that any of these issues are not important to artist. But I think the way we see them portrayed and expressed is quite different. It is definitely less in your face. I think it requires a little more, a little more thought, perhaps, a little more knowledge to be able to approach the work. And that's why I say myth, maybe not such a bad thing that we had this kind of change in the tides at the time. Because I don't think the content has been devalued, but I do. Well. But that's the conservative side of me. No, I can't help but be an old modernist because that's how, that's how I've been educated in how I've been raised. Anyway for what it's worth. This is great. Except I can't remember her name now. I know her first name is Elizabeth. Mary's. My me let me see if I can. I can. Okay. It'll come to me. So this is really fascinating piece. You can see. I don't know if you could tell, but so these are all mattresses and they're like all tied up and then tied together and suspended in this space. But if you look carefully among the mattresses are cakes and donuts. So here's cakes. Here. You see there's a donut. And as you can see my cursor. But yes, so this piece was really interesting, had its own room. This image itself is not from the Whitney. Neat room. Didn't have any, any Windows. But this was a complete sensorial experience. Mostly smell because you could smell like all the, all the sweets from the cake and stuff. But you also had a little bit of the musty mattresses, which was kinda growth. And then of course it was huge. It filled the room. So it was quite overwhelming overall. ****, I'm sorry. I can't think of her name. Welcome back to it. So this is another artist. His name is Jason Rhoades, and his work has become labeled as Scatter scatter installation. I hang it, that's what it's called, scatter installation. Anyway, he basically we create these pieces with all of this stuff kind of thrown together. I mean, loosely. His work kind of addresses juvenile masculinity in a way. I mean, there there's definitely a reference to kind of, you know, men things, but there's also a Juvenile Juvenal aspect to it. I don't. There it is. And this is actually a collection of Legos. So all of these in here are Legos. This is still Jason Rhoades, a piece this, this image is actually from a gallery, not from, not from the Whitney. I was going to say Jason Rhoades died very young. I think he was like early 30s, early 20s. He died of a drug overdose as I recall. So this is Doug for Jeff Wall. So what's your, what I find really interesting about his work is that he plays on this idea of the photograph is capturing a moment. Write that frozen moment in time. But interestingly, his, his photographs like this are all very much choreographed, right? I mean, they're very structured. And this particular one, I don't know if I have the image. Yeah. Is based on a traditional Japanese print. Right? So there's this idea that photography is real, that it records something that's actually their Hokusai. Yeah, The print, this print is Hokusai. But yeah, so this idea that photography sort of tells it like it is, is actually kind of the subject of his work, right? Because these are all in a way. If you think about it. If you're familiar with the term Trump, Lloyd Wright, like fool the eye. So that's kind of what Jeff Wall does. Not so much fooling the eye, but fooling the, the viewer, the viewers perception. And this is this is later work. So this is well after the 995 Whitney Moore Jeff Wall in terms of showing constructed environments. And You may recall this is another artist from the 93 Whitney as well. This is Cindy Sherman. We've seen a lot of Cindy Sherman. She's had a long illustrious career. The piece that I showed you of hers from the 93, Whitney was kind of a monster or female, if you recall, she had like this big crazy metal helmet. And then like this big, huge ******, I can't remember. It was like cost to me and dog-like. And the Cindy Sherman continued using these kind of dog images in her work. Again, you know, the issues are still there, but the presentation is very different, right? Is definitely not in your face like like the piece from the 93 weeks. And I knew I wasn't going to remember her name when it came up. Where my photographers, what what? Kathy, tammy. Hang on a second. Actually, I'm not going to be able to find it quickly. You might remember the 93 Whitney I showed you works by photographer Nan Golden, who basically documented subcultures. She then there's drug addicts and transvestite, Japanese club workers. This is, it's on the tip of my tongue. Cathy Shi. So anyway, we have a very similar sensibility with this work. Again, the artist is portraying people she knows, representatives of a kind of her nine mainstream culture. But in a very non-confrontational way. A very kind of, you know, here it is, kind of way. This is a Thai artist id name is we're get tariff on it. And we're going to talk about relational aesthetics more next week. But to Irvine, it is one of the main artist considered as part of the relational aesthetics kind of genre. Hit, he's most famous for these food installations, for lack of a better word. So this is, this is the artists here on the, on the far right. What he would do is he would create physical settings in which he would make Thai food and share it with gallery goers. Doesn't sound bad, right? So here's a kind of after the event shy. And this is one of the structures that he created. So the event itself, what sort of happen around and in this, this kind of space. So the whole idea of relational aesthetics essentially is that the work is about fostering these relations, right? And so that's what, that's what we'll get to your mind is doing with these pieces. And then I'm going to close with Felix Gonzalez Torres, who, whose work we looked at before already. But I think one of the reasons he is so well regarded, I think across the board and well-respected as an artist is not just because his work appeals to people on all kinds of levels. But there is a content to the work that is also appealing to people. Anyway. This, I think this quote sums up what, what happens post 990 three Whitney Biennial. We have to restructure our strategies and realize that the red banner with the red raised fist didn't work in the sixties and it's not going to work now. I don't want to be the enemy anymore. The enemy is too easy to dismiss and attack. So this is what I would say that the form and content dichotomy, you know, you sort of don't like how do you make art? That doesn't have form and content, right? And I mean, art is always about something. And if it's art, if it's physical, then it has form. And I think that what makes Gonzalez Torres so popular as an artist is that maybe he does this in a way that really resonates for people. So you might recall that the stacks, right, these are important body weight. In his life, whether it be the combined body weight of him and his partner or the body weight of his father, the body weight of close collect their friend. You know, there is definite meaning and content to the work. But it's also presented in a way that aesthetically, I think people find pleasing. I don't know. Another way to see that kind of better. I mean, I think really for me there's just something poetic about his work. You cannot sort of faulted for being anti aesthetic or non aesthetic. But you also can't ignore the fact that there's a content there that is very personal, right? But I think an argument can be made. This is, this is a piece from from the Whitney. Okay, I'm going to go back and argument can be made and I'm going to make this an extra credit discussion for you guys. So I'll post it up on Canvas. Later this evening. I gave you two kind of Internet pieces that relate to this idea of representation and what we can say, what can't we say? That sort of thing? I don't want to say censorship per se. But one is and I don't know if I knew this. But the first article that I gave you has a very provocative title, which is the ACLU needs to rethink its position on the First Amendment or free speech, something like that. The, the issue that the, that the authors bringing up is, does the First Amendment privilege, some groups over others? And the Cornell, Cornell West argue, will argue, yes it does. And what actually happened? This is what I was saying. I'm I'm not sure if I knew this or not. But the ACLU actually sued the city of Charlottesville. Find behalf of a white supremacist group. The white supremacist group charged the city of Charlottesville with violet, violating their First Amendment rights and not allowing them to convene and kind of speak their piece, right? Until what the writer of the article. I mean, there's also write that famous case of the Nazis marching in Skokie, Illinois and right, do we, do we allow that, this idea of if we if we allow one person free speech and everyone has to have that same kind of free speech. But, you know. So the question is, do we is that, is that typically the case? Is that, I mean, is that really the case? Does free speech. Does it apply to everyone? And is it available to everyone? Right? Cornell West will argue that power structures do not, do not make for equal access to opportunities of free speech. Okay, and that's what this article is also arguing. The other thing, the other article I gave you, it's a little dated now, but I thought it was quite interesting. Is an African-American woman who was writing on what was then the New Roseanne reboot. And she was basically saying that she appreciated the way that the show was bringing up issues, particularly around working class families. But that she found Roseanne Barr, the actor necessity to be so heinous that she wouldn't she didn't want to support the show anymore. Which is indirectly to me a kind of circles back to that, to that free speech issue. Which is, you know, kind of to what extent? I mean, actually, she wrote she wrote this article before the whole Roseanne blow up over her racist remarks. And I guess what I'm thinking is like, where's the line? Right? Okay. That's what I'm asking. Where is the line? How do we decide what we allow and what we don't allow? There's a personal line, which is what this, this writer was talking about. She was drawing a personal line. But there's also, you know, there could be a legal line, there could be a social line, it could be a cultural line. It's just like, you know, how do we, how do we determine these things? Okay. So anyway, I'm going to I am going to post that as an extra credit discussion for you guys. And wait. What happened here? Okay. This is why I wanted to do okay. It is 744. I'm going to show a video that is an hour and 11 minutes long. I love showing it. It's so interesting because it's about censorship. It was filmed in Tennessee and there, the early 90s. I believe. Anyway, it totally takes you into that climate of the censorship battles that were happening at the time. It takes us great detail into the Maple Thorpe exhibition. Also a little bit about Andres Serrano and also two Live Crew. I can't remember what else, but anyway, it is fascinating and it gives you a sense of the, of the climate at the time. So anyway, that's a very long intro. My point is that video, it was going to go over class time. But because it is cool zoom thing that happens. It will be recorded as part of this lecture, as part of the lecture video. So you can watch it on your own time. And you'll have you'll have access to it after after tonight? Well, probably after tomorrow night. Whenever the video is ready. Okay. So you're welcome to stay. You're welcome to go. The video will be available online and I'm just going to go ahead and start it. You can see that it's titled ****** in the USA. Legal problem support or the band of UFA. Thank you. Live in a day. Go and make replan to screen the controversial down. Hey don't folks, that's a good place to keep it down. What an underground film and it's banned. Tell me about the seas called ****** in the USA. My name is Jimmy Kimmel, I'm in the film. However, when Hollywood and welcome to show that today. For me, at the Edinburgh, scotland at 990, I was approached by some producers who are interested in doing a documentary on censorship and America. I said Sure, we counted States. We've gone the documentary, they bring it back, they make a film we're trying to show in the States annexed and I'll clip band a controversial, don't want censorship at again, showing tonight. We're viewing it America, new York debut at the camera. Reports from the newsroom after that for filling that felt like laugh with a million valid, fulfilling that. Dance with me, I'd say filmmaker Paula, your leverage, the American family associate it out loud and your reportedly altered the way to whom were added it a filmmaker. It fell 123. Oh, Mr. Lu, not a woman who's than in the US. Chimes. Good, gentle movement in Mississippi was Monday. I'll take a woven legal. I'm Raj is Donald. Those loans money couldn't buy. Decision and you looked at them a little line here, a little line. They vote in Mississippi with loosely that he loves. You, go home. On this side, the fundamental is when x2, x2, x2, Zeus, zeus is x2, x2, x2, x2 x2, x2, x2, x2, x2, x2, x2, x2. Zeus. Zeus is just so that I know that MSF would be associated with knowingly. Hope you'll enjoy this. It took a lot of time, money, and energy to be able to show. But thank goodness we had been first and it's an outrage. And we ought to terminate the National Endowment for the Arts because there will be no end to this argument, that controversy over what is art and what we're talking about, these sluggish Bo, Gu, help them get a muddy fall. Under the pretext of having produce something that they call art. Not only garbage, you could say, well, we know that lead engaging is kind of But that night and we need wound. Ghana's land and land in Ghana and landing on plan. And it's good to once knew then, now only use one name. Though we've heard a lot about that person that he had to help us through this material, please. Mr. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Jimmy tingle and that is my real name. And I'm from Boston, Massachusetts. Thank you very much for coming out this evening. I hope everybody here at USU that in American politics because very few jokes. Well, as the ball and my breath introduction to any sort of politics was in January of 1961. And appetite candidate will become the 35th President the United States of America. And my mother, she gathers a lot of the television set, we Washington's inauguration speech that he talked about. I have miles to go before I sleep. Miles to go before I sleep. And ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country. Like India from JFK. But because I was only five years old, it wasn't like oh, following even historic. The next time I hear from its affinity, it was eight years old. Those in the gray and the grammar school principal was the Foley came over the loud speaker, his voice cracking with the motion, boys and girls. President Kennedy has been shot today in Dallas, Texas School will be dismissed. And the whole nation mourn and the whole world more unrelated. Thought the thought that the hope that he would lay, yes, I'm Meghan destiny, I guess, whose data at a school or a week, I think all the rest of the impression startup has about an uncertainty. With accusations them up, Senator, make sure to silence harvest and others whose views are controversial. For our next government that we re re 54321. I don't know. I was not an advocate of 10. Wow. And and welcome to today's edition of issues action. Today we've got Pam, good news, bad news. Not a whole lot of menus, but some. And it relates to *********** again, there's another pick them up, phenocopy, an article claiming his message reaches 150 thousand churches with 80 to 100 million members. The Reverend weldment, once NBC to downplay the use of drugs and diminished violence, withdraw advertising for feminine hygiene products, avoid profanity and depict minorities at the same ratio as they exist in societies and uses sex is a part of the part should be downplay. Your bag with dealing set should present facts from the Judeo Christian perspective. Or that they felt occasion of sexual permissiveness should clearly be presented. Hey, Ryan and his family relationship and not approved by 100 percent, goes to the poets. What you, what you would be looking for, sex. And have christians aren't pigment. The lapses into play to God. He sees one want to kill him, got him up and kill the magnetic field as well. Pretty difficult betrayal Christians. All right, I've got General Motors, I got USB. Media has become a real pervasive and persuasive influence the media and just keep taking, what do you think? It can certainly tell you what to think about? Balance. What's his name? Latitude Murphy was a minister and enjoy being minister and would prefer to still be a parish minister. We started the AFI evening with sexual violence and killing me because that's what we've done. Over the years. This was solar who grow a pitcher. We realize we're not talking about sex mass. I'm told me really what we're talking about is a struggle for the heart and soul of civilization. In their possession. We operate on about 6 million, obviously, 99 percent of it is 1520 analogy or the computer has nearly 700 thousand. Jesus, I believe it's this thing where they lived together. So we tend to affect those influences that affect television, ***********, abortion. In some cases, government support of capnography, as with the National Endowment for the Arts. Let me just talk. We wanted these communist countries and political poets in jail. Poets, excuse me, urination, you feel threatened by poetry. A lot of problems. States was the last time anybody in this room would like jump by poets. The credits though is what do you say my appends what Foucault's coming out of a job by a lot of poets. I mean, Czechoslovakia put a jazz band, the dark zone off, get it. I was looking through the mail one day and there was a letter to the editor. It was 11. Each letter talking about a photograph of cry submerged in Europe on display at the local lot exam exhibit. And this was in Richmond, Virginia. Picture is quite incredible. The only reaction that I recall about his Christ initially was when I first showed it, it stuck value. This woman came up to your wife and she said to me, you know, when it comes to religion, my husband, I don't agree about anything. We were both very moved by your picture and that was the only reaction I have got. His quest to Wilmington. We had a person from Chapter enrichment go down and check it out because I didn't believe it. And indeed it was exactly what it said it was. So we took that photograph and send it to the congressmen and senators. It actually started because of one little bit a letter to the editor. The whole contours. Grace. I think what he did that he has his summer June submersion of Christ and it was an upfront to believing Christians. He's taken the person who's, who's the most important centerpiece and a whole lot and submerged in Europe. Let's suppose, for instance, that he had put Martin Luther key in urine, named it. I'm not you only use it to him but the street term for urine key. Unless suppose a start date and some tumors netting you and put it on display. How did you feel? Same thing. With his quest. It really blew me away. Was old and slow. Talk about anti-Christian bigotry and oncology. I mean, like I was raised Catholic, I still need to glance over Christian in many ways. My word that is an attempt to personalize my own relationship, religion. But anyone who has a right to use the symbols that we chose. Similarly, I do. Now I've gone in a robe. Dirty word on the wall. A little brothers, my own career. Ladder brothers, their old wall where the taxpayers support soonest I couldn't believe that people at Jesse Helms and our fonts to mind would take the time to denounce me on the congressional will deny would actually be entry into congressional Gracchi go on, rectify corrective action. Crazy. We'll go further. They'll say, I got it. Great bait. Serrano's a very interesting artist. He's 40 now, who was in a way discovered by much of the world because of the controversy surrounding his crimes. He works with the photographic medium. You would not concern itself with photography per se. He uses the camera to create art. The series much because Christ came as a series of related to bodily fluids, various kinds interspersed with other imagery. And the other bodily fluids series was his so-called come shot, sir, in which he photographed his own ************ across a locked background. More recently, he's done an extraordinary series on the homeless in New York called no man's. Another one on the Ku Klux Klan in Georgia. Very, very strong images without contrast. But when this came out attention and it became public, living can get letters from meaning ADH you saying, look, if you think this made, you just hadn't been discovered, anything, you just hang out. Look father, youth, youth. And sure enough it does. Washington Post and The New York Times and other editors need jerked around the country. I picked up the notion that somehow this surface here, I don't care what these people do on their own with their own money. But obviously you must above that where they start saying two becomes the United State bought out. Just send the money. This or there's no required. Now that offended them are lots with this belief that the stuff that happens in the art world is never going to be seen beyond our little elite, well prepared publics who in fact are hardly ever offended in anything except maybe the Python stuff. But, but the fact is that it happened and it set a whole series of events in motion. Partly because Robert wild and I believe it was rather rudely treated by the NEA who in fact act very high-end and manner as the art world is accused of doing it. So often does do. That is total disregard for the way in which are intentionally challenges values. But when we say, Oh, we don't like to have your values challenged. And are surprised that people say, when they say vociferously, know where, where the fools, not the kind of man. I just hope that this shot I think you sickness masquerading as OK. And if you allow the government to Washington it with official tax money, if aiding and abetting the decline and abuses that walk mindset. What why 80 by 1000 Guo 1965 to auto wobbling or cashflow for mom and women of sensitivity and creativity. If we allow anyone to speak up, including Mr. wildland and his friends about their viewpoints. We have to allow everyone to speak up about theirs. And in as much as I don't particularly want to go to one of their churches or whether they're haranguing newsletters. I don't want to be barred from going to a museum that has the information, some of which I might like and some of which I don't. But I think most artists are trying to say is, has to do with openness, has to do with recognizing that our culture is full of an immense amount of diversity. And we need to get used to it and we need to face it and we need to understand it. And perhaps to find some way in our hearts of embracing it. We don't have to be what someone else is, but we have to understand it and we have to be sympathetic with it right off the bat like that. But I think Robin wild and represents is the desire to exclude information that doesn't fit the picture. It doesn't serve the values. And that kind of exclusiveness is running counter to what we actually find, I think, essential in understanding how you live in urban culture. I guess I'm old version, but I don't want to talk about the kind of stuff that has been funded. The tax weird want a youth board. Like a woman whose mirror therapy with chocolate, a yearning that overstayed and invited people to come up and how to put it delicately That I guess Google Code examination. That's what I'm talking about, above all unpolluted about of all, remember poker, but that's because they're considered of years. Women had an incident entertainment more negative. Well, what do you think that arise? If you just tell the committee? Is it always true? I just got a lot nastier and everything will be okay. Remember, I know it's wrong and I know *********** when a committee that helped keep America jumped to happen. Well, from that point on, he just began to to break open microphone. 11, man, we did with this. I mean, some of this stuff is so gross. You can describe it in public. You don't want to let main uniting in anatomy map. A bullwhip Puppies make them hardcore homosexual acts. Well, that's wonderful about the new senators realized what was happening today, spoke to it on the floor of Congress. The media picked up on it and it exploded. Garbage that you have pictured by Robert Maple or no, homosexual who died of a, who spent the last year the Google are promoting homosexuality. Greatest benefit of know what I'm talking about. In terms of the art that I have. That I'll be glad you're in the picture below them through the film. I've ever spent or without, except you had been sick and nobody thought that it was caused to the nation's capital or the corporate Valerie attempt to show that last year. Valerie ultimately bow the public pressure and another museum show. But instead, what APA Chicago at Hartford, Connecticut without incident. What make a conservative Cincinnati, but then uncharged Barry. And the second with that said, uh, he, and the legal use of a minor in displaying civil courts, Fido's a lot of American for uncomfort, comfortable with sexuality, *********** and sexuality. And when they're confronted with it in any form, they don't know how to deal with it. They're uncomfortable, or it brings out the worst fears about themselves. I love. It's very interesting that the people who so strongly attackers show path around Xerox photocopy of the images among themselves. The old account, horrible it is, but we can look at it. I have the pictures you put your hand up. Senator, who think that I'm attacking, that? I don't know whether told me and the camera can see it or not. I'm will be passed them up with it. But I'll come over here. They have added bow and look at the pictures. But really the Washington both don't believe in New York term, don't believe it'll be heard. Women focus group, come over here and look at the mob, this value. Boy, Well, I think Maple, anyway, anything that moves me a thing and they play them. And now we can read about that. Internet went out. That it actually will debate yet. When they contract, they contradict our family that fulfill my family. Drop in the oil from the flip phone booth that they've got going about. We're kinda gets me two of them though. You know, we can feel the most meaningful sure. Both with other thing. They feel what the name Gaudi victims than the data. Come in the paper white and then show that I wanted to show a canvas with, with math, right? Tell us how they've been demonized people in the press. I believe he got a demonized in Bayesian building. I don't know. I mean, that they can find the lecture that promote the movement by proving to pain. Panther be no comments that my account food is good. This one for the prosecution to the First Amendment had nothing to do with it. At the bedside you, the guarantee of free speech at everything to do with it. It was the case against the Cincinnati February Art Center and that's due I think that was Barry on obscenity charges for displaying seven, put a bottle that Robert Hooke, an exhibition of his work last spring. We didn't get complaints from people who saw the exhibition. The complaint came before the exhibition ever came to symphony. Before the FAQ, before they even had seen the fellow who only what the room or the rumors of the photo and what they were told. That that's where the complaint saying those seen in Cincinnati do well. Since I had the last 20 years, a very active and high *********** movement, to be an actor, legitimate theater and legitimate movies. Eventually, clothing cuts thing, The Last Tango and Paris and stopping The Last Temptation of Christ. And I do believe that then they looked at the lift, would Helms and his buddy forever, Donald will blunt and others looked at the list of where the show was going to go. They saw that in Cincinnati they hadn't city where they could make a stand and create the issue, because they hadn't played a number of leaders that would create the issue here in the city. Welcome to my courtroom and Hamilton County Courthouse. My name is David Albany in the presiding judge and maple court trial that took place here in 1990, then September and October. I'd like to take you on a short tour of the courtroom where the triumph of play. You can see that compact their courtroom. All the third here and the backward, usually occupied by the news media. During the corporate trial, the defense attorney then a defendant, fat at the partner table with the profit cuter than Sappho wrong port to another table. Of course, for witnesses, testify. People, they've got a number for an afterthought or for that. Epsilon was in the very center. Due to the fact that the pitcher voting time to look up this Brower who have a 100 gram, I will still have a flower will come directly to a reviewer. That's the way the forearm, this platinum. They pay directly to where the jury that fit across from the bench. And during the course of the trial, court reporter were able to transcribe all the testimony as it took place in the courtroom and on the table we had that they exhibit that were entered it than ever regarding the lab five I'm showing you are the ones that were proposed tonight. One, muscle tone which are truly understand them the thumb of their own. But they were not published at the time. And he sounds of appealing to the fruit and paste of any audience. They will Robert's work of time. And of course, the most valuable, the individual images in the portfolio, ball and thought dollars for an additional 25 knots and supportive Robert with a whip. Now, let me put it this way. I'm not a great outcome, so I don't know a whole lot about. But I got to know several occasions, system chapel, I have been to the academy, Applied something Michelangelo map. And the reason I bring up price this is because David is a mood, but it's a mix of Workbook. If you've got to compare, say baby. If you're going to say that the photograph would mean urinating in another minutes or one hour. Might have thought with a bull with others like them is equal to Michelangelo. Would they then asked, like you say, it's incredible. That's not art. A man with his fist up somebody else's anal canal, which could be fatal by the way. Taking a picture of that or a little girl with her desk just saw when no underpants so that the vaginal area becomes the focal point of the photograph. Art. Just as an art, it's, that's child ***********. Saying that that's a tentative back. My new favorite art critic. You know, about it. We don't know. Depth it wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got like Rob around five and me to pick the format. And he hated me. It might not be might not be permitted. Rival. I don't know what that means. I'm not sure about what a graphic with a bullwhip and his lack of that. Let me go back, Larry, that we identify the bullwhip effect. I would say that they gave the federal government by bullwhip. Think that there were two charges against me in to charge you for Contemporary Art Center. The two charges for both were hammering affinity and the use of children. Due to the oriented material with loot focused on the genitalia and without parental permission. I faced up to a year in jail and 2000 hours find temporary art, contemporary art, thou knowest find at me whenever adhered to go. Focus here on communism. Communism. And, and so anyone who fell within the realm, we're victim of that. And then we had the Cold War and now with overfill, have to find someone else, branch out and have homosexual or harbinger of these today become a good symbol of that. And Robert Fee, obviously a day artist, and his subject matter being that of gay men. And obviously not the only one. It just so happens that edition to the point where very organized group of people were able to focus their fear. The man was. I think from what I've read about and I'm not an expert model, but I know enough about him. He was one of those people who have a block, sexually sexually mature, and a lot of different ways and I think he was fined. You get shock bag out of those seven up yours, Charlie. That's why it's like a wood-burning went to they have a family with a dialogue about whether you should be able to address certain tissue. Typing that Pandora's box, the door. These people, because so many people, especially in this culture, reviews in order to submit a story of denial. And one of the most brilliant things about Robert and his new track and draw wouldn't want you to think of his photograph was that the man was fearless in terms of putting out there in the world images which have him work important to his wife and his creative process. And then also pretty amazing thing to do. The work with. One of the documentation of what was happening. At that point in time, Robert did know the people that the, WHO, the position at the moment, we're all real idea of people had Robert Wood noted that when it went on it therapist, it would be every mother nightmare. I never found it thick or evil or my findability. The fourth woman, the polyester suit, which inspired one of the very Croce my career as a dealer, because the critic from Washington Post saw this with our gallery 91 when we did a maple for retrospective look at the dimension so to my gallery director, but what did the marred, whether how she didn't like the show? I think people miss when they think that Robert maple syrup is naked, fat. His camera settings and virtually all in the same way. It's very fun, very clinical, very studied. And his approach he was, there's hardly a spontaneity, whatever it is, how they sort of like flights. They had a quality of being frozen in a moment in time, in a way that sculpture go. I think for that reason they're about as erotic diagram of the body. And which has say that your average eight-year-old might not look at a diagram anatomically correct? In fact, legal at it. But I think if that kind of mentality that looks at them as point out. And then of course, one up is great. It, to me greatest single work, mercury might be FEV1. Pop them on Lenin exhibit in our museum. And the gray value at this point and golf knowledge of what hurts out of our graph. Remember, we were shy. I have a friend, Robert, get into taking you along. A big part of that is due to the very, very young Robert E. Lee resign and a Well throughout his career and you made a series of self portrayed, the full lap portray in which the agony, very much there in his eyes were always been true. But the demand, anything. Tell me Robert, to do a self portrait of himself. And his. Towards the end, completely emaciated, staring right into the camera, holding Go. I needed too long. It was going to present the image. Back here. You'll notice that the jury room, it's situated right? Operative court room and that door kind of write back from the courtroom here. And if it weren't a very accurate, deliberate enjoyed, give about two hours to come up with a decision. We, the jury in this case been doing this for you, find the defendant not guilty. Problem was that these people were not those artificially in autos are three-pointers of museums. And in their humility when the opposition in the defense team, men with much credential, so-called experts worldwide from their tea. In my judgment, with reference to the so-called artistic back of a bullwhip up somebody's rectum. Oh man, urinating another man's mouth, garbage like that. The poor jury was and the prosecutors mistake in judgment was he did not put on equally credentialed experts who would've said, this is an art. It doesn't come close to being art. This is built, but it did. One of these coils are over. Well as warriors or Louisiana, or directly to the contrary, did something very important. We've put up an amendment, though they know what it was all about. Freedom. About five there, right to the individual Americans. That alphabet theta 11, nasal torque and loving seven photograph. They were the vehicle for freedom of expression. All about freedom of the country. Make a cloak it anyway, they want to clog up. They can talk about ***********, they can talk about blasphemy. They didn't talk about, you know, political views that are unacceptable in reality. Now we're going to have a country that freshman and assets. It's not something that can go to great lengths. To be thankful that you want to come. To deal with someone. Feel sad, too fat to change some of the cheek. Time to time, which most plans to take your modality is very anti-Christian. She had a video. Similarly, having an abortion. Symbolic figure provides there's nothing except sensuality. Best option 7 plus the anti-Christian pigs, whichever $1 million contract. We talked with them, tell them that we were when we come from we don't who we got was what he stood for. The contract was never sang because the orchestra, mapo, always fam on persuasion does have lots of different networks. You're looking at it that way. If you don't, if you don't like what fellow APA API supports your managers, manage product, the support values that you bend them in. Legal and moral as well. Temptation, Christ, people. Out of 13 years later works that was another both with book part and the massive demonstration that theme that though they are urging a boycott, they are not likely to see those addressing the ground declared that the filmmaker may have triggered a bad thing, IMU and the moon. And back. Yes, it is real official lower waiting to see whether the impact of this demonstration will spread as the film opens today, and my broodmares and videos last 40 million, secret knowledge. They didn't make another one. Saffron and cooperation 711. We boycotted the Purdue, the coupon magazine, them all the stores table we can have circulation went down by 20, 30%. Playboy. And so obviously mainstream American culture. It's hard to find a line. Stepping over the boundaries and contents to the wild type group to succeed while pretending they have more power in the marketplace the more you haven't create fear Anaconda, company approach. According to do and you can strip away more. Why you have to draft an attack, their rhetoric. Without filling the frame group, I felt pretty good. Family life I'm going to engage in. Rather than saying, let's put it out in the marketplace. You make your case on a Mac if I'm willing to pay for it later, That's my players you could employ to be Fresco. You don't pay them will pocket versus any memory. I'm saying that saying, Hey, you've been doing for years. What Robin Hood? What the thing is that I happen to come from the different political and philosophical part. Next, let's look wrong with me that they don't agree with Matt. Religious conviction am a platinum but Zwingli and do the same thing, live with it. But from just being successful. Yeah, in some case that for all of them, why do you think that a progressive tough, I mean, he did the net profit to avoid bringing both on or I will definitely get to play with what I've said. You made. What I thought would we get the wife of the impact of great work because the fact that they've already military them folder for those who haven't met yet. Naive method to the method we're going to call blah, blah. Perfect for a, blow them off a rock, aka the heap that Gilbert and Islam and greetings in the name of Jesus Christ minders management. Hilton also go, thank you for doing what you do. The given me an opportunity to white and unite. It might be inotropy was always in my life only outset. Remember now that he's in the opinion. In fact, some of my earliest childhood memories are off reading Playboy customers and perhaps have a candidate capnography before I was in my teens to make a long story short. I am currently serving one year murder center. And *********** was in bond. What defend ***********. Move it. Pointing to a bank for people that are paying the price for this contract first and that freedom are women. And we're not willing to pay that, right? We are saying that *********** is not about beach correction. Afterwards Beijing. It is about profiting off of selling and buying up a view lesser pregnant women and children, if a great lie of people who advocate for efficient, but they're going to solve social problems. Principle works and they have low IQ verbal students to make the case quite the contrary, when it looks like the Soviet Union had been close to about sexual image of political dissent or getting forums. If anything, we'd are now celebrating the opening. Autodesk has been celebrating the cold wall. A lot of agility about censorship. I think it's particularly unfortunate because it takes away energy from discussable your social problem for which there are solutions. And if all the money that was raised to promulgate with organizations like the National Endowment for the tv shows. The deal with our sexuality or magazine, advertising editorial was raised instead, are better sex education, better available interception for families to have violence in their families. Better treatment, better when you actually live healthier, happier society. But no, it's a complex solution. Then there's the issue of bone between the guineas that show too much are now banned from running, but it's data more than 30 terracotta forth now to urea. There they filled a beach. They could prove Judge manner most mile or got a new campaign that they x-rayed video off your shelf and people are going to demand a logging in at night. To me trial of the two Live Crew, they'd have to get two hours of deliberation by Broward County jury. Guilty verdict, market growth, first column, victory in an ongoing battle over there, lyric. Jump. Oh no, wait, the journal to the cocoa themselves, Premium owner operator. You see records Florida. I was the only record store owner convicted of a misdemeanor selling as nasty as they want to be. Cool lab crew, third album, it for lobbying for June 8th, 2019. How the rest of them by BS or recover after they had purchased the album set? To my approved. And across most of you probably know by now that this is the album that our soul had been selling for approximately 10 months prior to my rescue. Notice. We don't want to just my nickname for me expand. It. How do you work in store owner would read that, fulfilling the temperature check. Hello, good morning everyone. Or only football it that are all in order like love, revived bamboo, brick wall with that family than to breathe. They will shortly average, say boys nationwide. But let's do the math because they want to be told and Lilienfeld, the edge of that report date, they opened create a more whoa, whoa, whoa. Laughter theta. That's one of my remarks. Anybody? Or you get a little darker than the yeah. I think that if we let a be the same think were convicted felon legally walk if we're going to drop what automatic weapons snap, wipe out 11 people. Well, they call a record store. And I bought a lot of big fan of obscenity of where we're going to walk around with a laptop. Anybody in this country die like an affinity to the fourth all thought like that. We've got the body right? Yeah, got it. A sexual innuendo in a row. That means by the neighborhood, kids come from the ghetto. But that's the relevant than it eight it out, come out of the neighborhood, the neighborhood itself. Barnum effect impacting faculty to talk about. The other day. That will lead to the release of the goods. Next album. We'll be mid-September. And these problems, it will be even more naphtha therapy. Well, in our people, the new thing, but today we'll focus on lukou is what's known as Luke Skywalker ornament. I figure I would thing that the reason why I would say about because 00 00 00, 00 00, 00, 00 00 from our polar continue to look at groups. Okay. So teach it even has to be amended. They called me to look at the question. I think really going to be that he didn't use to be able to take home points from within them that are not able to do. But there was a lot of violence which comes straight out of ***********. As a matter of fact, I did a television show recently where they showed an interview with one of the speakers or singers or two Live Crew. And he gave it. He made the connection with great group again, back at me. Is it worth their time to be enjoyed? Just the way regular injury they've had to warm orators, no shootings at least. And they've had something like 127 felonies can be committed on the site in the last six months. Everywhere worker goes, the maggots come by for obvious reasons. He's rotting meat. From a moral standpoint, totally unfounded spot, break that person live issue. The issue that actually tested refer to move it where people had no people who know what was actually going bigger like yeah. Yeah. No. No. You can just saying that because you know, what you're saying. Is that the mobilized after a while, the comfortable I write on how out and tell it what would what would I mean, you know, that's what they way to redo other companies doing things a bit. You think that's enough because on election day, We'll see you with the Campbell, in my opinion, is a very clever boy. We stupid, untalented, no creativity whatsoever. They couldn't care less about the First Amendment is of no interest to them whatsoever. All they care about is making money by playing dirty music or music, lyrics and music isn't dirty, it's non-existent. But the lyric centered and that's their infant. And they would lapping up their sleeves at the pseudo liberals who bleeding hearts who were coming to their defense because all they care about is what the cargo up to the bank played with night at 11 o'clock. New babies, crack, people get up and you see mothers and fathers fight. And on Friday, if you drove, people, know everyday walking around and you see all of the people, you know, that well from, you know, I can add it. Now. Some people may say all that, that thing I wanted to talk about today without that F150, you know, it is, but nobody in the government picked up a pin, ***** the whole thing. Divorce rate net, that terrible picture out. That that's a rarer and rarer. I'm a reflection of what's in the know. But we want to clean up what we told them about what I'm talking about anymore. They go clean up. Well, when asked about it, I live I live in a suburb of thickness and then back here so that my children to grow up in a small would mean they didn't want them to go up in a larger community like this. It is the birthplace of the spread of the disease. Is, I think it goes over then our one of our admin, to be honest, I didn't say it, presents it to the game. That's great. I saw a man in that charisma, that sensuality. But I did not seeing it as, as exploiting sex and media stars today in as much of the media. All of your friends that we hope you like. What break will tell you that over the top of the corn, those trays that you are very place of elders. They go to a placement first maybe. And then they can have a red light. I think it went on the one hand, you have artists sort of wanting to deal with real issue, the real line. And at the same time you see a lot of people who would prefer that the world had ever changed from what they perceived to have been a wonderful golden age of fathers, loving mothers and mothers loving back and everybody taking care of their 2.6 children and living happily ever after is it houses in the country? Whether that world ever existed is of course a good question. But it doesn't exist for artists anymore. And a lot of people never left butt to retrieve it. I think my head, I gotta get up and walk away. I took them out, be involved. But my Christian commitment says, as long as I'm convinced that this is where he posed movement and what he wants me. Good. Then I'm also going to I don't know. I just really don't know. Sometimes I doubt it, but it does require me that I'll be successful. That's the difference in the value systems. The world stage, you can be successful, you gotta be not want handpieces. Guess what? I wanted to know more. But hood on the required to mean that other people do. So whether or not we'll be successful. The way I looked at it and you don't like to let it go. Don't let them livable. Bulk of the symbol that you don't get too worried about. The war. Well, be I thought the weapons that all that affected people's mind. What we really have to do a thing on the planet and the broader, broader. Keep in mind that they'd be like, Oh, yeah, I pulled off the duodenum, the weapons chemical weapons, Wayne, thank a number of them that I had pulled. That would be well, we know that theta and that above that what we need is anyway, but I'm into 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00, 00, 00 00. Not know who the reader readable. Thank you both. Thank you very much for coming out tonight. And if anybody anybody home what relevant didn't like, it will be a big, big player we have when we try to get me than I really need the exposure. What do I do? I do? Do you want to do that? So all do. Gender. 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