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Interpersonal Process Goup 4

Lupita: So last week what we did was that our week 3 meeting and that was our self-disclosure in the group I’m correct right this was group number 3 and this was when we created our timeline correct

Group Members: Correct

Lupita: And we did that and everybody shared we went a little deeper because this how to do is self disclosure we talked about our timelines everybody had to create a Pick 5 different points in their lives like life events that affected them all rather influence their lives to make who they are today and we were able to draw that on a piece of paper which was a pretty cool exercise that just made us dig a little deeper and talk about ourselves in a deeper way than we have done before. And we were able to share with each other and basically talk about anything that anybody had a question about I think we were pretty good about listening and just asking questions where we needed for our clarification and all that and we were able to talk about things that we notice between us you know like common things and why they were impactful event to us and why they meant those things to us and then we talked about how was it like to share those events with the group and then at the very end we talked about how that self-disclosure are impacted this stage of development and yeah so are you guys feeling good about that summary how do you feel about last week and before we start this week based on that summary.

Group: Good

Rogue: I’m comfortable we’re in a good spot to do the test that is assigned today in looking at the video for this week they were talking about the conflict and the transitioning stage and stuff like that in the small amount of time we have had in these couple of week I think that we are well on our way to that process

Cindy: I would have to agree I’m glad we did not have the conflict that they had in the video there’s no power struggle I think that it helps that we have met each other before to kind of know the strengths of everyone so I’m good too.

Lupita: Okay Nebeur and Dawn are you okay with everything

Me: I’m good with everything

Lupita: Great, I think and just to piggy onto what Cindy said it helps to have known each other before and that has helped a big deal with a the conflict part of like to discuss out to address if that was coming up at this point in our development but I love that a even though we didn't know Nebeur before she has jelled right into the group you know and the experience has been great at least for me it's been great we haven't experienced any issues you know we've been the flow of activities has been okay and based on just asking you guys as we go along your response has been positive all along like she just that you confirmed that everything is okay with how things are going so far so I think with having an additional member even though we know each other before the four of us knew each other before helped with the whole conflict in like we and then again to address this is not to say that conflict is a bad thing at least in my opinion but I think that we have not had that power struggle and that’s one of the things I have included in my analyses when I am discussing that part of my paper. Alright if we are good we can move on to the next step. Actually can I just take one second to ask something of you guys so at the beginning of our very first meeting remember when we were discussing guidelines and be listed a whole lot of things that we wanted or our concerned and things like that we talked about one thing that I remember just before we started this meeting was one of our concerns were (Nebeur) we talked about how your juggling school you know like work, life, school and everything and we wanted to know how everybody was doing the reason why I bring this up right now before we go on is because we're in the middle of dealing with huge assignments you know in the coming week6 and I think week 8 as well and that’s something we said we wanted to kind of touch on to see how everybody was doing in terms of juggling life school work the whole if you are having any concerns we can just kind of touch on it

Me: I really don't have any concerns tonight I actually have to work tonight because one of my staff called out when my staff Call out and I can't find anybody to cover I have to cover so I have to be to work at 11 tonight and work overnight and I'm not used to that but other than that between working and school is been going okay

Lupita: Anybody else

Cindy: Now that I understand next week assignment I feel like I’m ready to because I don’t know from the beginning of the class you know I always look at the difference in assignments and stuff and I’m tell you I was confused from day one

Lupita: Okay

Cindy: But do feel better now after talking with Lupita and she talked to me and explained to me she has asked the question that I was asking and was able to explain to me that the word group was not necessarily a group assignment

Lupita: We all have those moments were we just freeze and you just can’t move past that point I don’t know why I understand things this waybut I’m glad we were able to get some clarity to that so that we are all on the same page

Dawn: This past week ago I had also reached out to Lupita because I was a little hesitant about last week’s assignment and the way you explained it to me I caught on and I was able to do what I needed to do so thank you so much for that

Lupita: Rogue anything

Rogue: No, but I know I was confused yesterday because I mean last week like when you go to the grading page it did not have a space where you have the analysis view I was confused because I didn’t see it and I was like is there an analysis due or not I don’t like doing work for fun but it was all the way at the bottom

Dawn: The Hidden Mask Assignment making the mask (10) minutes. The purpose for this exercise is to provide you an opportunity to examine each of your own personal mask most people wear several masks of composure to protect themselves from judgment and, at other times, to gain position or to feel safe. People wear at least five masks for example when conversing with minister, you will wear one mask; and when conversing with this subordinate employee or a stranger you wear different masks. With the materials provided to you create your own personal mask that includes at least two personal masks you believe you wear in life. What you draw may not actually be a mask but how you are in some situations. Dig deeper than simply listing common masks you play in life (e.g., daughter, cousin, student). Think about how you interact in social situations (maybe even in this group) and draw something that part of you. Make sure you can explain why your mask looks the way that it does, because you will be talking to the other group members.

Rogue: Sharing the Masks (15 Minutes) Now that everyone is finished making their masks, we will share them with the group. The group is to discuss each member’s mask. Everyone is encouraged to ask questions and to provide other members with feedback about their masks. Activity Process Questions, Discuss: how easy was it for you to identify three of your masks? What was it like sharing your masks with the group? What similarities did you find among the group members? As a counselor-in-training, what are the benefits of being aware of your masks?

Rogue: I to go first, one of the mess that I made is a sad face I say that because I always try to be strong and I try to be brave and you know for the sake of my family that kind of something I try to keep to myself and then I heard something that really resonated in me that my mom said about herself and she said that I’m a person that likes to help and she indeed has always helped her family and I don’t like anybody to help me, it’s hard for me to ask for help and it’s not a prideful thing it’s just the situation that I'm always in I have always been the helper and it's really hard for me to accept somebody's to help me and I get that from her a lot so I always feel like everybody should see me as a happy-go-lucky person and that they can come to me and I can resolve their problems and not somebody that is like oh you know she's on the verge of breaking I shouldn't put more on her plate. The other mask that I drew was the drugs that I share and I hadn't really shared this part of me in residency to much before but I am you know I am a recovering drug addict I think that is more true today than it was before because actually where I live now it is where my drug use was the heaviest about 15 fifteen years ago with the family stress and with school stress and stuff like that it's always a trigger and so I wake up in the morning knowing like hey you're in recovery and take care of yourself and put yourself first because you know it’s easy to relapse which I have a great support group exactly my fiancée he knows about my drug use it was what broke us up the first time he’s a huge supporter and always looking out for me. So yeah those are my two mask

Me: okay I go next I can't draw this is my first mask if you can see it so this mask is what people seem to perceive me as at work because I am a supervisor and I'm supposed to be like the kind of mean person however I don't see myself like that but some people may some people may not but it's sometimes it's really hard because some people you know why did they make you a supervisor you don't do this you don't do that and the reason I don't do those type of things because I feel as though people work speak for themselves your work speaks for yourself so when your evaluation comes around I shouldn't have to tell people what they did and did not do because they should already know what they did or did not do they should already know

Lupita: Why do you think they think that have you heard them say this stuff

Me: I think just because I am the boss and sometimes I do have to be hard because of the people that we work with we work with mentally ill adults and sometimes I have to you know like say you shouldn't speak to them like that they're not children they're adults just like us because sometimes I catch my staff treating them like children and I was like what you want to be treated like that don't don't talk to them that way you know you ask them questions you don't tell them you can't tell an adult what to do you can ask them what to do and just like I said to my staff I'm like I never tell you guys what to do I asked you to do a certain tasks I expect for it to get done but I'm asking you to do it I don't say what you go do that no I say can you go do this for me please. So my next mask and this one looks weird because I didn't know what I was drawing but this mask is my sad mask (crying) I'm sorry I get so emotional with this one because without my mom I feel so alone and even though I have my children (5) I still feel alone but that's that mask.

Lupita: Nebeur why do you feel like that’s a mask do you feel like you put up a front with your children find you if you don't why do you feel like that's easy like you put up a front and your children and they see the strong you and they don’t see the lonely you or can you explain that what's why do you call it a mask

They always see the strong me and I never show them how lonely I am nobody sees how lonely I am even though like I said my children are around all the time my grandkids are around all the time but I am just to myself all the time when my mom was here I was with her all the time she was like my best friend I was her only girl so I have three brothers but yeah but I'm always strong for everybody else

Cindy: I wish I could give you a hug

Me: I'm sorry I get so emotional when I talk about my mom

Rogue: I just came back from taking my mom to the casino everybody's like why do you do you that I say that’s what she wants so when you tell me these things and I'm like God I’m going to go completely mad and crazy I’m always telling my kids I'm a caring mom but when my mom is no longer around I’m not going to care anymore

Me: It's been 10 years

Rogue: I'm calm I’m cool I’m collective but the diy my mom is no longer here all of that will stop it’s nothing like a bond with a mother.

Lupita: Nebeur you know I can relate to that like on the flip side of it going through all that without I I just exact I feel what you're feeling right now and the end of thing is the reason why she had did you guys my family my sisters and people come to talk to us about how is it like losing a parent I think I remember sharing with you guys about is it better to lose them when your younger or when older or whatever it’s not easy but when Nebeur was sharing her experience my first thought was like yup, when I’m talking to all these people that come to talk to us about this I look like I got it right that's why you coming to me that’s why I can completely relate to what Nebeur is saying I’m right there a lot more times and you think you got it together and really don’t

Me: I fall apart every once in awhile

Cindy: you know she meant the world to you it's okay to fall apart because you need it

Dawn: I’ll go, so I did them all in one thing if you can see it, it say compassion and the other says worry so I feel like for the most part at my job I have to put on this compassionate face I’m going fix the world kind of face or mask for my client and sometimes it can be difficult just because I have all the compassion for them and I have all the want to help sometimes they need to help themselves and I kind of have a conflict with that because I know that I'm here to help them as a social worker but I can only go so far for you to have to do some legwork and that are situations where I feel like that compassion I could a little bit more I feel tired at some situations where I feel like if I was in the same shoes I wouldn't be in that situation because I would do the legwork I would you know go find a job I have kids to take care of so there is no way I would find myself in that situation and I try to find that empathetic or compassion side of me but I feel like I can only go so far with in that mask. The other one the worry and I always have it's kind of like worry is a smile the word worry is a smile because the world I'll put up a front of I'm fine everything's good and under control and inside there’s situations that really stress me out and I’m going through times that I don't know what to do and I know what the best solution to the problem is but because I know there's a lot of people depending on me and there's no my kids are depending on me and everybody else thinks I have it all together I have to put on this mask of everything’s great and put on my game face even though behind my mask I am just dying with worry and I don't know if everything's going to be okay to the world I have to say it's all good and that’s my two faces

Cindy: Well my first one looks like this which is trying to says yes I'm good but I have a lot of scares and you know I’ve been broken and had to put myself back together and talking to my mom about this assignment I said this class has taken a toll one of the things that I thought about this I've been in three relationships 10 years of each of them astrofx the third or what am I not doing right to help people even in I want to help you feel better let me show you what happiness is and if it just doesn't happen ring a ling I'm happy now that's me I tried to be their strength and want to be their anchor want to be the person that they can come to talk to me about anything without feeling like you're going to get in trouble that's a little Hammer because I lay down the law when it comes to school I love them with everything I have and that is when I am at my happiest I had help I'm talking about you said you're homeschooling and then I like she's she's a teacher now she's like and that's cuz that's where Squidward lives I guess I'm always the last one to share Mike Bost an org chart the reason why I chose that is because the non-confrontational descendants and I chose those words because the person and I thought this was a prophet mask to share with you guys because the person that I am at work is not the same person that I am at home or in other situations and Industry. I can identify with and if you were a little bit because she had in past groups that she's very shy quiet design provided she's a supervisor so she has to present this font that has somebody in charge and somebody who's in charge cannot be a quiet person somebody who's in charge cannot be our seeing auras opossum silent the tables a kind of flipped I I love my job right now I don't mind it in the reason why I love it is because it has a lot of doing things behind the scenes so I am not employee who is hunkered down at her desk and just getting things done and I'm good with that because I as long as the workflow is good my kind of watching the kind of work that if you want you wouldn't know that I exist you would know that I'm there because I'm so behind the scenes the kind of work I do is so important that if I make mistakes it's like a domino effect everybody's going to know things are not like whatever then it messes up everybody else you know things are not working out. You know so I prefer being behind the scenes quietly because a lot of the people who know me away from what would not believe the kind of person I am when I'm at work so it's like I have a different, different, different kind of the same thing that I do not report to somebody else and then to somebody else and I'm pretty cool because then I don't have to deal with other people you know like I just do my thing and I'm good a second mom is this month things that I do my little project that I'm scared with you guys sometimes that I do you know or like a whole lot just world and you know whatever I have the tables have to be flipped I am in a lot of leadership roles away from work I am in a lot of like I'm in charge of a lot of things and you know like steering the steering not making sure this is running with multitasking doing whatever so I am that person who I am not at work and if you told people is just no way but I kind of like keeping whenever we do this fast Melody test and it you know brings you know you enter the results come in and I'm always reading the results and I'm like yeah but if I was to do it on the flip side when I'm at home it would bring up this other person you know because it's like I put on a different hot when I get to work and when I get home I take that hat off funny things and in my Social Circles in my social groups and somebody else and I can't possibly tell you why it's like that I think inside my dad I do not like Conflict at work you know I don't like confrontations I don't like I would rather keep the peace and be the person who does not have to handle it you know to fix it on the flip side of my social life when I'm not at work it's something I'm passionate about it something that I love so I don't mind doing it I'm okay being that leadership role I mean I'm okay helping you know to help somebody else to do this or not I like you guys are sharing my record me down, Cindy called me the other day help you with what you meant, will fix it and I'm good with that and I I think it's all to do with passion you know if I'm passionate about something and I'm and I really want to see it through and I want to be inside of it then I'm I'm going and so that's why the master kind of late for me anybody have any questions for anyone in that in that section that we discovered I think we didn't cover two of the questions which were oh what similarities did you find them well you did I know she she thought that she had a similarity with the beer I don't think we covered as a counselor in training what are the benefits of being aware of your mat I don't think anybody kind of touched on that and what is it like sharing your mouth with the group I don't think anybody kind of time I don't know if you want to do like a what was the last chain your masks with the group I've always felt like I'm kind of really transparent right but it's something I find that I guess this shameful us and then also the the crying and being sad and stuff my story than what I've done through with my sister's dying in my arms and it made me feel vulnerable and what similarities did you find the other group members in some way I just mean if you're a dick the sad things cuz everybody else did it so that was the only similarity I thought I saw they have the counselor in training what are the benefits of being aware of your mask when I'm with people that are in crisis and endured under the influence of any type of drug treatment or something right when they're sitting here telling me I'm having some trouble having compassion and stuff because I've been there and I know how hard it is to get everything else was taken from me and I was homeless and stuff until I I know what it is to be in that particular situation and on drugs and have two kids it I'm like I have to have myself in these two kids and end so I have a little issues with that but I kind of just tried it okay if you want it whenever you want it it's going to be here for you to take you no go to wow it's whatever it is that you need to do and sometimes that that includes them getting their check for the month at all on drug and then coming back in two weeks and saying you know what my other money I might have a place to stay cuz if you stay on the couch used on my drugs and now I need the help and I'm just going to need the help for 2 weeks because then I'm going to get the next paycheck and I'm going to want to be out by the time to my social security you know those things without me divulging that that's something that I've experienced personally I don't ever share that with my client I always tell them to go suck an egg group or something like that Ethan and I know what the outcome is the worst outcome that they're cookie we've experienced it and so I never force that I'm always just like they take your time you know him best you know where you know her best know when it is when you're ready to leave and you don't get your ducks in a row do everything and I safely as you can okay my turn all right what was it like sharing my mass with the group the first mass was okay the second Mass was really tough because it made me feel emotional make me feel like I wear my heart on my sleeve wantable so it was pretty hard sharing that similarities amongst the group Road rug because of the sadness and Lupa is it Lapita okay because of the work thing except for our you know our in a supervisory capacity and you were just you just want to be as a counselor in training what are the benefits of being aware of my math as I tell my staff when they come to work check yourself at the door because sometimes I have staph come in there so emotional and when you're emotional with the people that we work with you make their emotions go crazy you make them either angry because you're sad or you make them sad because you're sad so I try to be aware of when I'm walking into any situation what Mass I'm wearing because like all our mess are vulnerable sometimes and just got to be aware of which one you're wearing in front of people do you want to go next play some to having technical difficulties but so I can relate to and just be present at all times and because of the work I feel like I do have to put this mask on at work where it's like nothing bothers me I'm there but definitely there's some some cases that bug me more than others and I just have to put on that mask as a counselor in training I feel that it's very important to be aware of your mask at all time at least you know that you're you're helping is actually showing you their renal space or just a mess process of having session after session with them you have to peel them so knowing that you have mass and you have your own things that you're trying to hide it kind of makes it easier to relate to them and not the other one word I want you like Siri the mask I think that after what I should last session I feel more transparent or translucent and possessions and I definitely have to say that I feel no judgement from anybody so there's things that I feel like okay if I say this might just me or say all you know and that's how I feel in my feelings what I say if I'm going to be judged and at one point or another maybe somebody's going to say something that I've no like I couldn't share and they did so I'm going to feel or I'm going to say something and the other group members. The only one and for me it was well kind of easy for me it was difficult for me to decide which ones to share because last recession and opening up I kind of felt like the people in the video did to an extent was that I say too much I'm not sure where I stayed so late I don't know if you noticed I was pretty. Generic but not wanting to know where you're at and what you're masks are because just like if you if I wake up Grumpy in the morning and my grandsons come over and then I think they're grumpy I need to check myself know how to respond to the clients that may come in that you know where I need to be real I need to be as real as I can as honest with myself as I can so that I can and you see it you know it and I think it helps me to be judgmental I identified with grow and John not based on what I wrote on paper but they taste difficult for me because I'm so aware of the fact that I'm a situation I am the only one who knows that and vice-versa you know so I am I was it wasn't hard for me to identify them because I am so aware of the fact that I'm a different person in in both situations I was just like sharing my mess with the group it wasn't difficult because I've come to know you guys and you guys are pretty transparent and very open and it wasn't difficult sharing that with you because of a few things that we talked about in the past you know whatever it is so you wasn't it wasn't it was okay for me to talk about things with you guys because I can be open I can you not know me at work so you like my card group of people so that made it pretty easy you don't because you're not with me at work and you're not with me at home so I can tell you anyway but I think a lot of people do this when you marry each of you. Counseling training one of the benefits of being aware of my mask I am very aware of my mask because I do know that being aware of them will help me know when to take all my mom's going to put it on and I know that I can I know I can help line of work you know if I'm capable of doing it I forgot that helps me because when it comes to self disclosure especially the one with therapy. I would unmask you know appropriately with just the level that help the client that helps me that's a benefit because we know that if it when it's needed when it is needed to stay on it'll stay on you know when I need to unlock so that I can be vulnerable in order to help my client and I will do that if it's to help the time so it's just a matter of finding a happy aware I'm not too close. You know like I'm not being myself yeah I mean. Are the meeting too long let's move on to the next but if everybody's okay with that if anybody wants number for sculpting your impression of the place in the group utilizing paper and markers on one side of the paper draw the picture of the group and your impressions of your place in it the picture should depict your view of your relationship to the group Journey as creative as you would like with your drawing are the other side of the paper draw a similar picture but when drying your please consider how the group member picture of how they see their place in the group be sure to thoroughly explain your thoughts as members are listening to each other present remember to paraphrase reflect and if needed ask questions for clarity listening to each other presents remember to paraphrase reflect and if needed ask questions for clarity activity process questions how did your perception of your place in the group match or not match how other site what surprised you about how others saw their place in the group I'm surprised you about how others think group members see them I'm done all right. I'll start off this is how I see my place in group I consider myself part of the puzzle yet you're equal are we supposed to do the first one next do you see that women are we doing how I see us or how how I perceive it myself in the group okay this is okay that's the wrong one then this is the wife okay and the reason I drew it like this is because like you guys all been together for quite some time and this is what my third time with you guys every time I'm still feeling feeling like I'm you know still on the outside looking in not quite there yet but trying to be so that's my perception of how how I feel Lego how I feel and the one next to it and the reason is I don't know if you guys are familiar with the reason why it was something that was earlier when I said everybody to be ruled by a dictator like I felt like other when we have the time to talk I am going next this was my fast one like a round table as well and I have myself for the talk because of obvious reasons the reason why I did it I did it that way is because all kinda for the second part of it is to share how icing other members see me one of the group call horse in in a thank you I do this sorting right and then all the same individuals is y'all and then I'm different and only because of the whole a lot of the people got the family members and stuff like that is not something that I've heard people that words in our residency have that same thing and you know sidebar and if we knew each other very well but I just kind of feel something with you I went to school with college I have to stay so I turned to drugs and which is a very small town and I was still taking to the point where can I have to have my stomach so you're not wrong it's just things like that helps others to feel this is how I feel what you guys perceive me Unity everybody together and that's because since I've been in a group I've heard it over and over again and you and you guys welcome welcome me me to the group and sharing a whole lot of personal stuff with me you know I thought I was one of the however my feeling was a little different because I was so new I think if I would have started this group with everybody it would have been different but I feel Union Cindy decided to I know tacos can be late Too Faced out like when I do that it was more on the fact of their respect and I see that and I think that's what I wanted to portray in that all right my son this was my second drawing all the wrongs table but with that Valero right there in the middle nothing went on the podium you know and if it's wrong to again you know like in last week I think I remember sharing in this happen to me and almost just about every group and I just don't sit back and watch this kind of appointed to be the leader of a group if I'm capable and nobody else wants to do it take on the responsibility of doing the only thing is I love sharing responsibility and still remain a circle you know even though it had me there like that I can kind of help to guide it to do but I love the round table kind of idea where any of the share your responsibilities are shared and it's not just about me as a leader and that means a lot to me in any leadership role and that's why I'm helping the like having the client do the work so even though you know you're helping them you are canceling their the client you're in the leadership roles so to speak you know but they are doing the world can be instrumental in that way then sure I'll go right ahead and do it whenever you guys have my attention to like what do you think should we do this should we move on but what made me thought you as the net role was when the instructor had you reach out to me so that's what made me think you were in that role so I'm like okay I'm just going to go with it how do you get along with the facilitator and so that she was because of this this than the other and I'm a girl where is Ida kind of brought it up like that you guys find do you guys feel like we exhausted by pod pretty good. How did your perception of your place in the group. You're not match how others saw you I'm surprised you about how other saw their place in the group and what surprised you about how others think group members see them so how did my perception of my place in the group match or not match however saw you nobody said anything different I think where we could see each other equals and and you know where to get can we try to do whatever the situation may be I don't know that I was surprised but it I like the ones you know the pictures are world-class what surprised you about how others do not match how others saw you I mean didn't match because I know that everybody has kind of on stated that they can really see me and is so am I saying that I was like I did kind of feel like I would love to tell you all everybody would love to tell you all of our stories and everything so that we could be you and what time is limited and perception with appointing her a leader is something that kind of just proves that we're kind of thing but we kind of think a little bit Yeah so how did my perception my place in the group match it did everybody was all all all of you guys were all on the same page with everybody being in the round table together for some reason I felt a little down below but that was not correct for you guys what surprised me about how others saw their place in the group it didn't because I all knew how you guys fell and you all saying the unity of the group as one what surprised me about how others think their group members see them it didn't because everybody saw themselves as what so how did my perception of my place in the Dreamcatcher. Match each other what other side think like everybody else we all see each other at the same time we use it very well and there is no judgment and there is no dictatorship from the group or any ideas. So I think that after what he said you know that we definitely need the five of us I have not felt as confident to share with other people so I definitely I think the first two options stop your place in the Grove much or did it not much I'm surprised you did not surprise me because it matched what you guys. And I agreed to that but yeah you I don't even know how it happened it just what surprised you about how I never see them I wasn't surprised by his response because I think a couple weeks back when we talked about how you feel when you join a group and I shared a bottle I would feel kind of vulnerable you know if especially the group I would feel the same way that they do you know it's feeling so that did not surprise me at all the same way call Cindy's words that I wouldn't want anybody to feel left out in this regard that says I will speak directly to you and if you are and say I truly want you to feel like you belong in this group and that we welcome you fully and like and I also Echo wardrobe said that it's just time does not allow I strongly believe that they all feel the same way as I do like you you're part of this group You Belong by my sentiments on. So we can move on to the last one to say when did you sign your guidelines and whatever and agreed to that but the fact that you don't seem and see about getting things done you know like I'm ready to just get out of here kind of thing makes me sad to know that weekend. Time to the 90-minute master now we have like six minutes all members will answer out loud the process passions of the end of the previous exercise is contribute to our group development if you were an animal which one would you most accurately describe an animal which one would you most accurately described it as NY what do you think of that don't forget the last part I was kind of when I first was reading it on Sunday was like okay I thought about something serious like V7 animal when you read it right now I started to think of and I'll use everything but everybody seems to be calm like you said you're not trying to do like speed through this process and he'll just that I think the time that it takes for an hour to kind of look at this crazy and all the other things that that an hour is is the animal that came to my house and then I'll go ahead and every time we share somebody to share something else I'm like I feel like that little I don't know if you're there we got into something that she was like 2015 in s not being able to be around each other in prayer and hard to feel like somebody is there for you when the cat for me I also agree with you the previous exercise has helped us to just develop our group 2 a deeper level there was no and it was you know I look forward to talking to you meeting with the group our group was an anime when would most accurately describe it fight you know I've been thinking about the the panther it's related to a science thank at my grandson and although it's considered gets on the extinction list for whatever reason and they're very silent and they I'm get ready to do it I don't know they think about things and how does that relate to the group and our stage of group development Clinic 2nd and we're feeling more comfortable acting natural okay how did the previous exercise contribute to our group development I think it with this exercise that kind of pulled me in a little more because I was able to be one with you guys I actually cry in front of you to do that but it happened and I'm going to group these next two together what surprised me what I'm sorry if you if if you were group animal so I chose I think it's like is the Tiger in the lion together but that they take care of that their group and I think all of us have been pretty much taking care of each other just helping each other get through this group listening to each other whether it's you know me crying or you know someone else feeling sad but we just come together as one I think. So how did the previous exercises contribute to build up on trust fund a knowledge that were able to close and it's okay and the most I was thinking more along the lines of a wolf a wolf a person has their form of speaking and instead of being together on that goes on the road against the wall open up Cindy is like everybody's mom a couple of times for somebody to do it for me and I think that we are all her skills together if it has made us The Fabulous Life going to close with this I am going to say this how did penis exercises. One is like an open the floodgates of us just entering into each other's you know like you know like that just helped condition in a from one punch to the other where you feel like you owe you can be open with them you can be vulnerable with them but at the same time you know if your group has an animal which one would you most accurate accurately describe it and despite all the things we've shared that things that should break people down you know things that should make people test timeline stuff you said last week this made me think of the time the Big 5 if you know the big five animals in Africa by the Rhino the elephant and the African Buffalo because it says five large African mammal species were known to be dangerous and it was considered a PPI Trophy Hunters to bring them home so when you are sometimes strength can be seen as a trophy you know like I want to be am I even going to bring people down best represented as like so much strength even though it says strength in Inca should be in before now but the people wants to hunt its Treasure Hunt is treasure data is a good thing it's it's it's a strength that is actually not many people can handle the things that you guys have a beautiful thing altogether because that's what's made you who you are today and made us made me who I am today and I think for me the big five what was just the best thing for me to pick animals that represent the same that we have in the going to be done but somehow we still went past the time that's okay I still have time good night