Cyber Security
––––––––––––––––––— Summary of a Roundtable Discussion (October 2012)
Cyberpower and National Security NCAFP
ABSTRACT Expert speakers discussed cyberchallenges that have emerged,
including the strategic threats posed by cyberespionage and threats to
critical infrastructure, as well as the types of domestic and international
diplomacy and other forms of responses needed to respond to these chal-
lenges. They discussed issues pertaining to Internet governance, the increas-
ing interest of states in governing the Internet, and the risks their involvement
poses to the current multi-stakeholder governance model. Discussions also
focused on whether cyberspace is a war zone, assessing this question from
the perspective of three levels of warfare: strategic, operational, and tactical.
Finally, the roundtable closed with a discussion on the role of cybersecurity
in bilateral relations between the United States and China.
KEYWORDS China; critical infrastructure; cybersecurity; cyberspace; diplo-
macy; espionage; Internet governance; United States; warfare
CYBER-RELATED CHALLENGES: IMPLICATIONS FOR AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY, NATIONAL SECURITY,
AND SOVEREIGNTY
The first speaker focused on the nature of the cyberproblems that have
emerged, giving particular attention to the strategic threats posed by cyber-
espionage and threats to critical infrastructure and also highlighting the
types of domestic and international responses needed to deal with these
problems.
The Attack Problem
The first speaker outlined the main problems that have emerged in
relation to cyberspace, including problems related to privacy, free speech,
crime, espionage, and critical infrastructure. He noted that, with regards
to national security, cyberspace poses two main problems: the espionage
problem and the attack problem. There are also several types of attacks:
remote attacks (e.g., the Chinese attacks on Google and scores of other
U.S. companies in 2010 and the more recent Knight Dragon attacks on oil
and gas companies); near-end attacks (e.g., the Stuxnet attack on Iranian Policy observations are the ‘‘For the Record’’ in this issue.
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nuclear centrifuges or attacks on U.S. classified sys-
tems, some of which date back to 1998); insider
attacks (e.g., Wikileaks or the recent insider attacks
on the Saudi Aramco oil company that wiped the
data from 30,000 computers); supply-chain attacks
(e.g., the infecting of software at the production
stage so that a computer is automatically conscripted
as a ‘‘Botnet’’ without the owner’s knowledge).
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s recent speech
focused sharply on the attack problem, particularly
the risk that certain attacks could bring down U.S.
critical infrastructure with huge consequences for
U.S. national security.1 In reality, however, evidence
that this type of attack has occurred or that it will
occur is limited. A major attack would be evident.
Indeed, if the United States were subjected to a major
attack, the attack would manifest itself in a range of
ways and different vulnerabilities would be exploited.
A major cyberattack would most likely be associated
with a kinetic attack, and it would occur under a set
of geopolitical circumstances that would signal that
something major was under way. In this regard, the
speaker stressed the importance of understanding
the scenario, understanding signals, and understand-
ing the circumstances under which a major attack
might occur as an effective means to implement
appropriate preventive measures.
Attribution has been an important problem. At the
same time, however, media and state officials are
increasingly attributing attacks to different countries
(e.g., the recent attacks on Bank of America were
attributed to Iran, while a recent intelligence report
placed Russia and China at the center of economic
espionage attacks). Greater certainty about the per-
petrators of attacks can help in terms of de-escalation
and deterrence.
Non-state actors such as terrorists pose a different
set of challenges. For the most part, important terror-
ist groups do not currently have the capability to
conduct a major attack against the United States.
They can, however, hire criminal networks that do
have the capacity to develop sophisticated capabili-
ties. Recent testimony by the Department of Justice
laid bare how terrorists have, in effect, attempted
to seek the support of criminal groups to develop
sophisticated cyber-capabilities.2
The speaker stressed that if this is the landscape—
different types of attack capabilities, with countries
and people who might want to use them against the
United States, a country that, because of its depen-
dence on cyber tools, platforms, and capabilities,
is extremely vulnerable to attack—a set of interde-
pendent responses needs to be developed. These
responses would require the participation of a broad
range of actors from the public and private sectors
and from the technical, political, diplomatic, economic,
and security spheres; they would require strategic
decisions on how to take advantage of capacities and
capabilities that are already available; such responses
would also require a significant amount of work at
the international level with both allies and adversaries.
Building Resilience
On the technical side, the speaker stressed the
importance of developing resilient systems and open-
ing up the space for cooperating with like-minded
nations. In building resilience, separating the differ-
ent types of problems is important. While protection
of intellectual property is important, once it is done, it
is done. In comparison, protecting operating systems
or critical infrastructure is much more complex and
requires building resilience into the systems. If an
electricity grid is brought down through an attack,
significant effort needs to be made to keep it down
because electricity grids have built-in protection to
handle blackouts. Significant capabilities, including
insider intelligence, would be needed to bring down
and keep down an electricity grid. Hence, in entering
into conflict with an adversary, what is critical is to
keep all or most systems operating at a minimal level.
For this, system resilience is required.
The speaker noted that a range of actions can be
taken to build resilience into systems. For example,
the Australians launched a campaign entitled ‘‘Top 4
Mitigation Strategies to Protect Your ICT System,’’
which includes patching systems as soon as they have
been attacked.3 This, however, presents its own set of
problems, not least because those who run the elec-
trical grid need to maintain a lot of reliability; before
they patch the system, they need to make sure they
do not undermine the reliability of the rest of the
system. Rather than the 48 hours suggested by the
Australians, reliably patching an electrical grid while
maintaining the integrity of the system might take
up to one month. Solving this timing issue remains
a significant challenge. Other technical solutions
include integrity checks—making sure your system
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is good, that it meets standards, and that it is checked
periodically.
The main problem with technical efforts to build
resilience is that they have not been brought together
under an architecture that really makes them work.
There is no one set of standards providing guidance
to companies on how they ought to pull together
existing capabilities or that highlights the capabilities
that could be made available through research and
development (R&D). In this regard, an important
question is who should be setting these standards,
government, industry, or a combination of both.
Public–Private Partnerships for Standard Setting
The speaker referenced the legislative package
that is pending approval in Congress, suggesting that
rather than covering the 18 critical infrastructures as
the current package does, a more strategic approach
would be to prioritize efforts. The focus could per-
haps be on developing standards for core critical
infrastructure such as the electricity grid, telecommu-
nications, financial, and transportation systems, and
then gradually develop standards for the remaining
infrastructure. Standard development should involve
the private sector, not just because they ‘‘own’’ the
systems, but also because they have the expertise
and the access to much operational information that
the government may not. Companies like Verizon
and other Internet service providers (ISPs) can
observe a lot of irregular activity on their systems,
but they do not have the authority to do much about
it. It may well be the case that they should not oper-
ate without government involvement or approval—
for example, should private companies be permitted
to enter into somebody’s server to clean out viruses
or attack vectors? Or, how far outside their own bor-
ders can the private sector, the military, or the police
work? Agreement on ‘‘rules of engagement’’ is
urgently needed. In short, public–private partner-
ships for the development and adoption of standards
that continue to foster innovation, and are flexible
enough to be adapted when necessary, are crucial.
Working with Like-Minded Nations
The speaker stressed the importance of working at
the international level, suggesting the establishment
of a group of like-minded countries that draw in
strategic decision makers from the public and private
sectors to develop standards and build operational
capacities. He noted that such a body could be
developed along the lines of the voluntary Financial
Stability Board—which emerged from the Basel
agreements.4 A ‘‘Cyber Stability Board’’ could focus
on standard-setting and could initially include coun-
tries that have a tradition of working together such as
the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada,
Australia, France, Germany, the Republic of Korea,
and Japan. In the absence of such a body, the current
ad hoc approach will continue, and the involvement
of institutions that are not well-suited to deal with the
current set of problems will increase.
Working with Non-Like-Minded
Nations
The speaker also emphasized the importance of
working with non-like-minded countries, China and
Russia, for example, on issues of strategic import such
as economic and industrial espionage. Since these are
sensitive issues, seeking common ground on issues of
mutual concern such as terrorism or cybercrime is
important. At the same time and despite the launch-
ing of formal diplomatic processes and Track 1.5
and Track 2 processes with Russia and China, agree-
ment even on these less-sensitive issues is a long way
off, with much work remaining to the done.
The Importance of Sovereignty
The speaker noted that it is also important to elev-
ate current thinking on questions of sovereignty and
cybersecurity to the international level. For example,
if enough evidence exists that a country, individual,
or group of individuals is engaged in cyberespio-
nage, the United States could use approaches that
are common in the public health arena. For example,
during an outbreak of severe acute respiratory syn-
drome (SARS), people are placed in quarantine and
borders become important. The speaker questioned
whether this is something that could be applied to
cybersecurity—that is, placing those who propagate
viruses in quarantine. He also cautioned that such a
move would require congressional approval and
would most likely spark controversy and be contested
since freedom of expression would be curtailed as
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would the free flow of information. The speaker also
suggested that thought be given to the possibility of
promoting a cyber-sanctions regime, similar to the
counterterrorism and non-proliferation sanction
regimes. Such cyber-sanctions would give the presi-
dent the authority to issue sanctions against persons,
companies, or governments that use cyber tools as a
means of ‘‘attacking’’ the United States.
The Importance of Strategy
On a final note, the speaker observed that while
many of these attacks happen via cyberspace, it
is improbable that a major attack on the United
States would elicit a cyber-response. Rather, a more
strategic approach would need to be employed.
Such an approach would place the protection of
the U.S. economy (not just individual companies
and agencies) at its center. It would include diplo-
matic, economic, kinetic, and cyber efforts. It would
focus on strengthening domestic capabilities and
capacities, working with other countries to develop
standards, and working internationally to find com-
mon interests with adversaries.
WHY INTERNET GOVERNANCE
MATTERS
The second speaker presented on the history of
Internet governance, shifting trends, the increasing
interests of states in governing the Internet, and the
risks that this poses to the current model of Internet
governance. �����
The second speaker began his presentation by clari-
fying the distinction between the Internet and cyber-
space, noting that the general tendency is to conflate
the two terms. While the Internet is part of cyberspace,
there is a lot more to cyberspace than just the Internet.
For example, radar systems, air traffic control systems,
and inter-banking networks are not part of the Inter-
net, but they are part of cyberspace. The Internet is
what individuals interface with most and has been
the main growth area over the past two decades.
The Current Model of Internet
Governance
The speaker’s presentation focused mainly on Inter-
net governance rather than the broader concept and
reality of cyberspace. He touched on the origins of
the Internet and how it developed from experiments,
originally within the Defense Advanced Research
Projects Agency (DARPA; ARPANET). He stressed
that what is often forgotten is that the technology
underlying the Internet, the actual protocols and
the software—what makes the Internet work—have
their roots in the 1970s and have remained largely
unchanged. Indeed, the code that we use to inter-
operate (e.g., the protocols that allow Verizon to talk
to AT&T, British Telecom, China Telecom, and so
on, and the protocols that allow us to use Google,
YouTube, and so on) are more than 35 years old.
While some new protocols have been developed,
the basics of the Internet remain the same. The Internet
arose from academic research and experimentation.
The governing model that underpinned the original
Internet reflected its experimental nature.
The same experimental, academic-based govern-
ing model is in force today. However, the question
of whether we want the Internet to remain an experi-
ment forever is gaining significant traction. The alter-
native would be to ‘‘lock it down’’ through standards
and regulation, but this might inhibit flexibility, inno-
vation, and learning from experimentation. At the
same time, the current loose technical standards pose
risks, as they allow for malicious behavior and permit
criminals and spies to take advantage of the lack of
security. Hence, significant tension has emerged
between openness and innovation and security.
The speaker highlighted the fact that older parts of
cyberspace have already been locked down via
standards and regulation. For example, the world of
telephony has been ‘‘locked down’’ since the 1950s
when agreement was finally reached on voltage
levels, frequencies, rates, tariffs, and tolls between
countries that exchange phone calls. The same pro-
cess occurred earlier with the telegraph and radio.
Today’s Internet is not really like the telegraph, the
radio, or telephones. Nonetheless, there are increas-
ing calls to apply these old regulatory models to the
Internet, subjecting the Net to trade agreements and
rules—old thinking of taxation and boundaries. This
frustrates users as the Internet tends to be governed
by the people who use it—people choose what they
want to do on the Internet and do not look to govern-
ments to control or limit their capabilities.
The speaker noted that the question of personal
choice and personal freedoms is making countries
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with authoritarian tendencies nervous, especially
since the Internet can empower citizens. Other nations
embrace the Internet and related freedoms. But even
in the United States, indecision is increasing about
what citizens are free to do, and whether to attempt
to control and govern the Internet. For example, the
U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is
seeking to find relevance with respect to oversight
of domestic Internet technical operations. Part of what
is frustrating the FCC is the 1996 Telecommunications
Act, which stated that the Internet should remain
unfettered, that it should not be placed under govern-
ment control.5 There are exceptions made, of course,
for law enforcement and protection of children, but, in
general, the Act states that the Internet should be
allowed to function unfettered in the United States.
Notwithstanding, much has changed since 1996,
especially in the aftermath of 9=11. Several bills aimed
at regulating the Internet have been tabled in Con-
gress. These include the Stop Online Piracy Act
(SOPA), the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA),
and the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection
Act (CISPA). Many have not advanced because of
resistance from industry or from civil society. (A final
push by the Senate to pass their comprehensive cyber-
security bill during the November 2012 lame duck
session was not successful either.)
The Internationalization of Internet Governance
At the international level, a specialized agency of
the UN—the International Telecommunications
Union (ITU)—is the global governing body for the
electrical side of telecommunications and sets the
standards that allow people to use technology to talk
to one another, make phone calls, and so on. The
Internet has transcended all those rules, allowing
people to make calls using the Voice Over Internet
Protocol—VOIP (like Skype or Vonage) from com-
puter to computer free of telephony charges. Many
in industry and governments are bothered by this
ability to communicate using systems that bypass
traditional voice phone calls rules and tariffs.
Meanwhile, developing countries are voicing
increasing concerns about the digital divide that has
emerged and are requesting support in terms of fiber
optic cables, wireless, and so on, and the sharing of
technology. They are also calling for a stronger role
for government in determining standards for how the
Internet is run. While much room exists for discussion
on these issues, the speaker also stressed that many
countries would like their own physical social consti-
tutional norms to apply to cyberspace within their bor-
ders. In essence, they would like to place jurisdictional
boundaries on the Internet, so that they can also have a
say in controlling content. This is problematic, as the
Internet does not have boundaries unless they are
artificially imposed (e.g., China’s Great ‘‘Firewall’’).
The speaker mentioned that, in December 2012, an
important conference will be held in Dubai. The
International Telecommunications Union (ITU) will
host the World Conference on Information Telecom-
munications (WCIT), during which the International
Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs) will be
reviewed.6 The review of the ITRs will include deter-
mining whether standards and regulations that
govern telegraphy, radio, and telephony can be
extended to the Internet and subject to the ITU’s over-
sight. The speaker stressed that this is a crucial ques-
tion and could create significant tension between
states that have very different views about how to
make the technical side of the Internet work. He also
questioned whether such government involvement is
really necessary, since most technical problems are
generally resolved through informal collaboration
between technical experts, not between politicians
and diplomats or the military.
The Future of Internet Governance
Part of the governance challenge is that govern-
ments do not know how to react in situations that
emerge in cyberspace. For example, if an important
technical hitch is encountered or a technician misbe-
haves, affecting people across the globe, what
should be the response? Should it be more govern-
ance, more diplomacy? Or should we seek new solu-
tions for these challenges that have emerged in the
synthetic world we have created called cyberspace?
The speaker suggested that, sooner or later, we will
reach the point when everyone can communicate
and can conduct all their business via the Internet.
When this happens, we may find ourselves question-
ing the role of traditional governance and the rel-
evance of our governments. The first nation that
figures out the answer to that question (i.e., the role
nation-states can play in such a world) will dominate
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for the rest of the century. For the United States (and
its allies), determining a winning response is para-
mount. The alternative would be to let another
nation or group of nations get the upper hand. The
United States would then spend the rest of the cen-
tury playing catch-up. This, the speaker noted, is
the current situation of Internet governance.
IS CYBERSPACE A WAR ZONE?
The third speaker focused his presentation on the
three levels of warfare—tactical, operational, and
strategic—describing current threats and responses
within each of these levels and tabling some initial
recommendations for how to move current discus-
sions forward. �����
The third speaker commenced his presentation
with a reference to how interest in cyberspace has
changed. Indeed, just five years ago, very few people
were talking about cyber-related issues; today,
some 29 derivatives of cyber exist—a whole lexicon
of terminology has since been created around cyber
and the whole world is talking about it. The speaker
noted that cyberspace is referred to as a ‘‘fifth
domain,’’ joining the strategic ranks of land, air,
sea, and space. The international community has
had a lot of time to develop standards, laws, and
rules of engagement (RoE) for behavior and opera-
tions in the other domains. We have yet to do the
same for cyberspace, which, in contrast to the other
domains, is man-made and, accordingly, poses
additional challenges. He presented cyberwarfare
within the context of the three levels of warfare:
Tactical Level—War with a
Small ‘‘w’’
The speaker noted that this level of warfare is experi-
enced daily. Every day is a tactical-level battle for com-
panies, governments, and private citizens who are hit
by attacks. Technical experts spend their days fighting
adversaries on the network and protecting systems
from advanced persistent threats (APTs)—attacks and
fraudulent activity—and from attempts to extract intel-
ligence and obtain intellectual property. This, the
speaker noted, is a very low level of ‘‘warfare.’’ It is
a ‘‘cold cyberwar’’ of attrition. At the same time, a lot
of damage is being done and can have serious effects.
Operational Level—Cyber ‘‘Warm War’’ with a Small ‘‘w’’
This level of cyberwarfare includes the occasional
significant attacks that make the front pages of the
New York Times and the Wall Street Journal—for
example, the recent denial of service (DoS) attacks that
were carried out against Bank of America and other
banks. For the military, it was the attacks that led to
operation ‘‘Solar Sunrise’’ in 1998 that made the
Department of Defense wake up to its vulnerabilities.7
The attacks on Estonia in 2007 were also significant:
the entire nation, which depends extensively on
cyberconnectivity, was pretty much shut down for a
short period. Since then, illicit hackers have continued
to hone their skills and abilities. Today, these skills
are employed in sophisticated attacks or the use of
sabotage tools such as Stuxnet, which damaged Iran’s
nuclear centrifuges at Natantz; or extraction tools such
as DUKU and FLAME, which are said to have mapped
U.S. gas pipelines and potential choke points. The
speaker referred to this as the ‘‘warm’’ level of cyber-
warfare. It has provoked political tension on inter-
national and domestic fronts. Internationally, tension
is emerging between nations as increasing evidence
is emerging that some countries are developing
and using these sabotage and extraction attack tools.
Domestically, this ‘‘warm war’’ is giving rise to a new
form of political contestation: An enormous amount
of cyber-related legislation is being drafted, debated,
and defeated. In 2011, some 85 pieces of legislation
were tabled; this year, some 40 pieces have
been tabled. Tension among and between members
of Congress and between Congress, the private sector,
and civil society over what should or should not be
included in these pieces of legislation is rising.
At this level, and also at the tactical level, cyberse-
curity is gaining importance within the legal sector.
Lawyers’ professional organizations need to under-
stand the issues in order to be able to advise their
clients, while a need to know how to argue these
issues in litigation also exists. Common terminology
is urgently required.
Strategic Level—Cyber ‘‘Hot War’’
with a Capital ‘‘W’’
The speaker noted that this level of cyberwarfare
involves military confrontation. At this level, much
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work is needed to ensure that such confrontation is
avoided. What distinguishes this type of cyberwar-
fare from the other two? One, a cyber ‘‘hot war’’
would involve devastating, long-term effects. An
attack at this level would lead to the 5Ds: death,
destruction, damage, disruption, and devastating
economic loss. Two, this kind of cyberwarfare would
require congressional approval (in the other four
domains—land, air, sea, and space—Congress is [at
least in theory] supposed to declare when the United
States is officially at war). A major challenge with
cyberattacks would be determining the identity of
the enemy. Declaring war against a virtual activity
is very difficult. The speaker noted that preventing
cyberwar=deterrence has three requirements:
. Resilience: A resilient network can help deter
someone from attacking you. Attackers know that
if they persist and cannot gain access or disrupt
a system, they will have to give up or eventually
get caught by law enforcement.
. Recognition: Knowing who is attacking you, who
the enemy is. The capabilities to enable such rec-
ognition need to be developed and implemented.
. Retaliation (attack capability): The United States
won the cold war through a nuclear stand-off. If
we can develop a capability and send signals that
we have it and are willing to use it (as is increas-
ingly being reported today), we could end up in a
situation of mutually assured disruption (a MAD
theory of cyberspace).
On a final note, the speaker mentioned the
ongoing work of the EastWest Institute, including
its annual Worldwide Cybersecurity Summit (Dallas
in 2010, London in 2011, New Delhi in October
2012); its Track 2 work with both Russia and China,
and the development of a common lexicon on cyber
with Russia.
THE ROLE OF CYBERSECURITY IN U.S.–CHINA RELATIONS:
COMPETING INTERESTS AND
STRATEGIES
The fourth speaker discussed Chinese interests and
behavior in cyberspace from an economic, military,
and political perspective and how these interests differ
from those of the United States. The presentation also
focused on U.S. efforts to engage China and prospects
for change in Chinese behavior.
Common and Conflicting Interests
The fourth speaker opened by referencing the U.S.
International Strategy for Cyberspace, which states
that the United States has a stake in ‘‘an open, secure
and global’’ Internet and cyberspace. He then noted
that China shares some common interests with the
United States in this area.
An Open Internet
The speaker observed that China’s Great Firewall
immediately suggests that the United States and China
do not share common interests about openness on
the Internet. China’s principal objective is to ensure
that information from the outside does not get in
and it has pretty much succeeded in keeping infor-
mation out: Google, Twitter, and Facebook are all
blocked. The Chinese Internet is, however, becoming
more open as, even in closed systems, controlling all
activity and content is impossible. This has resulted in
a constant ‘‘cat and mouse game’’ between the
government, whose aim is to control information,
and Chinese bloggers who wish to spread it.
A Secure Internet
The speaker noted that the United States and
China do have a shared interest in having a secure
Internet. Chinese cybercrime, Chinese crime directed
at Chinese companies, Chinese criminal hackers—all
are increasing. The Chinese are particularly worried
about terrorist attacks on their infrastructure. The
challenge is that the United States and its allies con-
stantly use the term ‘‘cybersecurity,’’ referring to the
security of the Internet’s architecture and ensuring
point-to-point free flow of information. The Chinese
and the Russians, however, use the term ‘‘infor-
mation security,’’ which includes the security impli-
cations of the content that flows on the Internet.
For the Chinese, the threat is not only the hacker in
the basement, but the threat of information security
to regime stability. These different goals, different
nomenclature, and different definitions have ren-
dered discussions with the United States difficult
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because the United States is unlikely to trade Internet
freedom for Internet security.
Global Standards and Interoperability
The speaker stressed that developing global stan-
dards is important to business expansion and inno-
vation. On this point, he noted that the Chinese are
of two minds. Central policymakers are worried
about the longer-term impact of technological depen-
dence on the West. Their strategy for achieving inde-
pendence is through a policy focused on indigenous
innovation—the creation of Chinese competitors to
U.S. companies. This is already happening in the
technical cybersecurity realm through MPLS,8 encryp-
tion, and so on. Chinese firms are of two minds on
this policy, however.
Competing Visions of Internet
Governance
The United States has a vision of Internet gover-
nance that is multi-stakeholder, bottom-up, academic,
transparent, and involves non-state actors. This
approach is anathema to the Chinese as their goal is
to reassert state sovereignty over Internet governance.
They are trying to achieve this goal through the ITU
and other platforms. In short, the United States and
China share few interests and certainly disagree on
how to shape Internet governance. The speaker
raised the question of why the Chinese are trying to
shape the Internet—noting that they are doing so
because they can and also because they are seeking
economic, military, and political advantage.
The Economic Perspective
From an economic perspective, clearly the Chi-
nese do not want to be dependent on the West. This
is a very legitimate side of China’s technology policy
and to that end, the country’s leaders plan to increase
R&D spending to 2.1 percent of Gross Domestic
Product (GDP) this year and to 2.5 percent by
2020. Indeed, China plans to be a significant power
in innovation by 2049. China has a human resource
advantage. This year, some six million college stu-
dents will graduate, 60–70 percent of them in science
and engineering. The illegitimate part of China’s
innovation policy, however, remains the theft of
intellectual property (IP). As noted earlier, IP theft
happens in the traditional way as well as through
cyberespionage. The latter has been said to represent
the greatest transfer of wealth in history.9 China
engages in such theft because it can and because
limited risk is involved.
The Military Perspective
Militarily, China sees itself as the weaker power—
especially in a force-on-force possible engagement
with the United States. Over the past twenty years, it
has been considering issues such as how to attack
U.S. weaknesses, how to develop an asymmetrical
strategy. The Chinese have observed the use of
asymmetrical strategies to counter ballistic missiles
for example by targeting aircraft carriers in the sea,
in satellite programs—and now in cyberspace. For
example, all the Chinese open source writings from
military analysts suggest that one way to impede the
United States is by making sure that supply ships do
not rendezvous on schedule. There is a strategic
element in this behavior: if the Chinese are in our
networks and leave little hints behind that they were
there, they are sending a reminder or signal to the
United States that if a regional conflict should arise
and if it escalates, we Chinese can do something
about it.
The Political Perspective
China is using cyberspace to respond to many of
its domestic political concerns. For example, the
issue of Tibet remains an important political concern.
Tibetan activists are often drowned by spam sent by
Chinese hackers, e-mails are hacked, and think tanks
focusing on Tibet are attacked. China uses hackers as
proxies to either silence or shape debate within and
outside its own cyberspace.
Chinese Views of U.S. Behavior
According to the speaker, China considers much of
the U.S. position on cyberspace and the Internet to be
hypocritical. While the United States has said that
it wants a peaceful cyberspace, China accuses the
United States of militarizing the Net through the estab-
lishment of the U.S. Cyber Command and the deve-
lopment of capabilities such as Stuxnet. China also
assumes that U.S. intelligence agencies are in their
networks and that the United States is spying on
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them all the time. Such suspicions may have a strong
foundation since at one point 95 percent of Chinese
government offices were using the easily penetrable
(and pirated by them) Microsoft Word software. The
United States will only discuss economic espionage,
refusing to talk about political or military espionage.
China views the ongoing Huawei debate as parti-
cularly hypocritical, first because they believe it was
begun by Cisco Systems, which has its own vested
interests, and, second, because almost all the threats
discussed about Huawei—the insecurity of its supply
chain, the unreliability of its middle managers, the
insider threat—can characterize any telecommunica-
tions company in the world.
As noted, China is not comfortable with the current
system of Internet governance and views the refusal
of the United States to negotiate a new deal as the
United States wanting to preserve a status quo that
only benefits the United States. However, most other
countries, including India and Brazil, which in many
ways are becoming more important than China, are
insisting on change. In essence, the United States
has not yet put anything positive on the table.
U.S. Engagement with China
Deterrence
The establishment of the U.S. Cyber Command
and Secretary of Defense Panetta’s speech warning
of an imminent ‘‘cyber Pearl Harbor’’ were part of
it.10 Secretary Panetta basically said that the United
States is getting better at resolving attribution and
will respond. Many interpret the secretary’s speech
as an attempt to deter Iran, but the speech was also
directed at China.
Naming and Shaming11
After the attack on Google two years ago, U.S.
government officials would refer to nation-states
being behind the attack but would not name a spe-
cific country. They would then call experts to con-
firm their suspicions. Today, no calls to experts are
made—U.S. officials have readily identified China
as the perpetrator of cyberespionage attacks.12
Official Dialogue Channels
Cybersecurity now forms part of the strategic
economic dialogue with China. Both secretaries
Clinton and Panetta raised cyber-issues with their
counterparts during their last meeting.
Track 2 Processes
Different Track 2 processes with China have
already been launched, including those facilitated
by the Center for Strategic and International Studies
(CSIS) and the EastWest Institute (EWI). The goal is
to find some areas of commonality upon which
cooperation can be established. Other Track 2 efforts
include joint reports or joint initiatives such as a
recent EWI report—‘‘Fighting Spam to Build
Trust’’13—which focused sharply on the question of
‘‘dual illegality.’’ The problem with dual illegality col-
laboration is that, in some cases, what China ident-
ifies as criminal behavior, the United States views
as politically motivated behavior. In addition, coordi-
nation has not been very good with the FBI and the
Department of Homeland Security, while communi-
cation between U.S. and China Computer Emergency
Readiness Teams (CERTs) is nonexistent.
Prospects for Change in China’s Behavior
The speaker noted that for now and probably in
the immediate future, China views the United States
as more vulnerable than itself, partly because of the
nature of the U.S. economy, its military, and partly
because of China’s Internet infrastructure. China’s
Internet has fewer access points; accordingly, con-
trolling it is easier. That will change over time,
not least because China’s economy is expanding
and becoming increasingly dependent on the Inter-
net for growth and, thus, will eventually need to
open up. Indeed, Chinese business wants inno-
vation in this space, and China’s military—the
People’s Liberation Army (PLA)—wants to become
a Net-centric fighting force. It wants to look like
the United States, so it is developing relevant
capabilities.
Over time, this race to match U.S. technological
superiority might lead to what was referred to
earlier as mutually assured disruption (MAD),
with both sides considering nonaggressive action
in cyberspace as the best course. For now, how-
ever, China still sees the United States as the more
vulnerable, which could very well lead to reckless
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behavior triggering or escalating an existing crisis.
The Chinese see taking out U.S. systems as a
low-cost endeavor. Accordingly, the United States
will need to determine how to signal that this is
not the case.
China’s behavior may change over time because
(even though there is currently no evidence) factions
might emerge within its government who believe
that hacking long term is not in China’s interest and
that creating their own standards and cutting them-
selves off from the rest of the world is not going to
help China’s growth. These factions might push for
more openness. In addition, there are also those
who do consider (and worry about) China’s relation-
ship with the United States, the EU, and Japan—the
country’s most important economic partners.
On a final note, the speaker stressed the impor-
tance of examining how China participates at the
global level. China is no longer a revolutionary
power or state; rather, it is a status quo power and
generally does not like portraying itself as playing
outside the global order. This became very clear with
the issue of proliferation. China’s behavior was and is
not perfect in certain decisions about Iran, but track-
ing China’s behavior in missile control shows that
their behavior at the international level has shifted.
Looking to the future, the main challenge will be to
determine whether we can define common norms
with China for operating in cyberspace. The speaker
noted that the United States has been actively
attempting to do so. The signals, however, are not
particularly encouraging. For example, a couple of
weeks ago, Harold Koh, a State Department legal
adviser, gave a speech on the Laws of Armed Conflict
(LOAC) and their applicability to cyberspace, noting
that the U.S. position is that they are applicable.14
China, on the other hand, believes that the LOAC
do not apply to cyberspace; that cyberspace is
a new area and that new treaties are required.15
These opposing positions are difficult to bridge. In
the long term, what will be more important will be
to bring emerging large democracies such as India,
Brazil, Indonesia, and South Africa on board and
focus discussions on values and reaching common
ground on norms. These are all long-term goals
and will take some time to achieve. In the short term,
the speaker recommended that the United States
focus on developing resilience and defenses and
identifying entry points for working with China.
QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION
On China
The first question raised the issue of China’s efforts
in cyberspace and whether these are centralized or
coming from different quarters; whether the United
States is aware of the people involved; and whether
efforts have been made to recruit them. One of the
speakers noted that to his knowledge, strategic goals
are set at the top, but below that, control and coher-
ence of effort are more complicated despite China’s
centralized and heavily controlled political structure.
What is apparent, however, is the merging of crimi-
nalized and espionage networks. Signals intelligence
(SIGINT) could possibly help identify individuals
and networks as they all must log in and log out of
systems at some stage. If individuals are identified,
sanctions could be used against them. To date, the
United States has a mediocre record at both identify-
ing and recruiting Chinese hackers.
On the Advantages and Disadvantages of Operating in a
‘‘Cyber Jungle’’
One of the participants commented on how the
United States, China, and Russia tend to demonstrate
intractability on different cyber-related issues in a
range of fora, including on cyberterrorism, cyber-
crime, and cyberwarfare. For example, Russia has
been pushing for the adoption of an international
convention that includes references to terrorism and
cybercrime, as well as to broader conflict.16 The
U.S. position is that such a convention is unnecessary
as these issues are already addressed in existing treat-
ies and conventions. Meanwhile, the private sector
has emphasized that the United States has no interest
in regulating cyberspace since the United States ben-
efits more than any other country from the cyber-
space ‘‘jungle,’’ from the ‘‘fog’’ or ‘‘chaos’’ that has
emerged in relation to the domain. The United States
is more advanced in terms of offensive capabilities,
has more effective penetrating capabilities, and,
therefore, has limited interest in regulating the space.
The United States also has other advantages in the
cyber ‘‘jungle,’’ including that cyber platforms, the
Internet in particular, allow the United States to pro-
mote democracy in parts of the world where political
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leaders are trying to censor information. Without this
‘‘jungle,’’ the Arab Spring might not have come about.
Both China and Iran are deeply concerned about this
‘‘jungle’’ and are trying to contain it.
The participant then questioned whether the
United States is really a victim, as it often makes itself
out to be [referencing Secretary Panetta’s speech on
an imminent ‘‘cyber Pearl Harbor’’] or whether it actu-
ally has the upper hand and really just has to lower
the risks involved and upgrade the advantages.
Speakers responded that, indeed, countries like China
and Russia also take advantage of the ‘‘jungle’’ that is
cyberspace as it allows them to engage in actions that
would otherwise be unacceptable. One speaker in
particular emphasized that it is, however, important
to remedy some of the chaos, to give some order to
the ‘‘jungle’’ so we can actually see what is happening
in cyberspace. It is an awkward position—U.S.
foreign policy (like that of China, Russia, and others)
prefers the smoke as it covers otherwise unacceptable
actions, but officially and diplomatically, the United
States must maintain the stance that there are different
ways of seeking solutions.
On the Role of the Private Sector
One of the participants raised the question of what
private sector companies—Google, Microsoft, Veri-
zon, and so on—are actually thinking and doing about
cyberthreats. One of the speakers responded that their
voices are becoming part of the crucial conversation,
and they are increasingly insisting that the Internet
should not be regulated or locked down through
treaties and conventions—especially in the context
of international peace and security, where the role
technology companies play is unclear. Other ques-
tions that remained unanswered related to the role
of the private sector in cyberdiplomacy and in discus-
sions on international treaties, and so on with the
insistence that something new needs to be developed.
At the operational level, more discussion on the
role of the private sector is urgently needed as com-
panies do not necessarily want to become comba-
tants, yet are heavily involved in defending systems
or are increasingly asked by government to remove
content or defend sites from specific content. Some
firms are becoming involved in offense, operating
like mercenaries or defense contractors, and making
money from the alleged threat of ‘‘cyberwar.’’
On the Role of the Military
Questions were also raised about the role of the
military in responding to cyberchallenges, not least
because the United States and Russia generally
send military representatives to meetings attended,
for the most part, by law enforcement and intelligence
representatives. One of the speakers stressed that, at
least in relation to the United States, the Department
of Defense is deeply involved because it has been
the target of attacks since as early as 1998 and has
developed significant expertise in the areas of defense,
offense, exploitation, and resilience. The Department
of Homeland Security was only established in 2003
and is still developing expertise in these areas.
Another participant raised the question of whether
the United States currently has the capabilities to
fight and win a simultaneous pre-emptive cyberwar
against Russia and China. One speaker responded
that the United States does have tremendous capa-
bilities and has been developing them over the past
fourteen years, but other countries are also develop-
ing them.17 How a pre-emptive attack would play
out is unclear, however.
On the Role of the Legislature and Lessons from Other Regimes
One of the participants raised the question of
whether too much is being made of the extent of
the threat in cyberspace, referring to similar concerns
that emerged about the creeping weaponization of
outer space and unfounded warnings of a potential
‘‘Pearl Harbor’’ in outer space just a decade ago.18
The participant also questioned whether the current
use of a war lexicon—cyberwar, deterrence, cyber
MAD, cyber cold war, hot war, and so on—is push-
ing the militarization of the domain as had been
the case with outer space. Regarding the role of Con-
gress, the participant questioned what the current
political will is in relation to responding to cyber-
threats, suggesting that lessons might be drawn from
the Nunn-Lugar legislation on Cooperative Threat
Reduction (CTR). This legislation addressed itself
predominantly to the United States and Russia draw-
ing down nuclear arsenals after the cold war.19
Today, discussions are being held on the possibility
of extending the Nunn-Lugar CTR package to include
coalitions of like-minded nations. With obvious
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differences, the term ‘‘CTR’’ certainly seems to apply
to the cyber-arena. In this regard, the participant
questioned whether there is any impetus in Congress
to adopt some form of a CTR for cyberspace? Is there
political will to do so? Is it a feasible proposition?
One of the speakers responded that given the
current impasses in Congress on cyber-related
legislation, a CTR for cyberspace is highly unlikely.
At present, the only point there has been agreement
on, and which flows through each of the 40þ pieces of legislation being debated in Congress, is the
provision to share information between the private
and public sectors. However, the actual scope of
information sharing is bogging down even that
agreement. In addition, major differences have
emerged between those who are pro-standards and
recommendations and others, such as the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce, that oppose standards and
recommendations. The question of who is respon-
sible for protecting civilian infrastructure also
remains a challenge.
Another participant raised the issue of awareness
of the challenges within Congress. Speakers high-
lighted the challenges of working with staffers within
the Senate. The National Cyber Security Alliance
(NCSA) established Cyber Security Awareness Month
and is also engaging members of Congress and staf-
fers through workshops, and so on. Staffers are ulti-
mately responsible for drafting legislation, but most
senators’ briefings by the intelligence services are
classified, thus staffers are not privy to vital infor-
mation. Reference was also made to the importance
of developing public–private partnerships at the state
and city levels—including as a means to share the
cost burdens of responding to cyberattacks.
At the international level, and as noted earlier,
Track 1.5 and Track 2 diplomacy processes can play
a significant role, as they can foster dialogue on these
issues in support of formal diplomatic processes,
such as the U.S.–Russia agreement to establish a
cyber ‘‘hotline’’—a crisis communications line similar
to the one established during the cold war. The
Nunn-Lugar process started through Track 1 and
Track 2 processes and gradually led to the CTR.
One participant raised the question of whether,
given its experience in Track 2 processes, NCAFP
could play a role, particularly in fostering dialogue
with China on cyber issues as it is evident that crisis
communication is not in place.
Speakers responded that even discussions in
Washington about cyber-incident response plans
are more focused on domestic responses rather than
international responses and that much more struc-
tured dialogue at the international level is required.
Discussions with China have already commenced
on pre-positioning and how and who to engage,
but it is clearly an area where the NCAFP could also
play a role. Working with like-minded countries such
as Australia could also be advantageous. Another
speaker stressed the importance of linking to govern-
ment efforts, at least partly because if Track 2 efforts
are to be useful, it is important to understand what
discussions are already under way. That knowledge
would help define entry points and assess the added
value of engaging; it would also enable analysts
and participants to report on the outcome of dis-
cussions. A forthcoming EWI report, ‘‘Priorities for
International Communications,’’ will be able to shed
additional light on potential entry points for Track 2
processes.
Examples of ongoing formal diplomatic processes
at the international level that require further discussion
in order to understand their implications include: the
work of the Group of Governmental Experts (GGE)
taking place within the UN General Assembly’s First
Committee on Disarmament Affairs, which is focusing
on reaching agreement on norms and confidence-
building measures in cyberspace,20 regional-level
discussions that the Organization for Security and
Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), the ASEAN Regional
Forum (ARF) are hosting on confidence-building
measures and other related issues.
THE HOST, THE PRESENTERS, AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS
The Host
Dr. George D. Schwab
President, NCAFP
The Presenters
The Honorable Franklin D. Kramer
Distinguished Fellow, Atlantic Council
Lt. General Harry D. Raduege, Jr. (USAF, Ret.)
Chairman, Deloitte Center for Cyber Innovation
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Marcus H. Sachs
Vice President of National Security Policy, Verizon
Communications
Dr. Adam Segal
Maurice R. Greenberg Senior Fellow, Council on
Foreign Relations
Other Participants
Professor Giuseppe Ammendola
New York University
Mr. Kevin Backus
Director of Equities Research and Trading, BGC
Financial
Mr. Randolph Bell
Managing Director, The International Institute for
Strategic Studies–U.S.
Mr. Carter Booth
Trustee, NCAFP
Mr. Sidney J. Caspersen
Assistant Commissioner, NYPD
John V. Connorton, Jr., Esq.
Trustee, NCAFP, and
Partner, Hawkins Delafield &
Wood LLP
Captain Peter A. Garvin
Military Fellow, U.S. Navy, Council on Foreign
Relations
Mr. Thomas Glynn
Captain, NYPD
Mr. Thomas E. Graham
Managing Director, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
Ms. Edythe M. Holbrook
Trustee, NCAFP
Richard R. Howe, Esq.
Trustee and Treasurer, NCAFP
Mr. David P. Hunt
Chairman, Charles Pratt & Co.
Ms. Angela Kane
High Representative for Disarmament Affairs, United
Nations
Ms. Camino Kavanagh
PhD Candidate, Department of War Studies, Kings
College Fellow, Canada Center for Global Security
Studies, Munk School, University of Toronto
Mr. Igor Kharkov
NETSEC Group Manager, Thomson Reuters
Mr. Peter Maass
Author and Journalist
Ms. Hatice U. Morrissey
Vice President, Trustee, NCAFP
The Honorable Matthew Nimetz
Trustee, NCAFP, and
Advisory Director, General Atlantic
Mr. Charles Ortel
Managing Partner, Newport Value Partners, LLC
Ms. Missy Owens
Director of Public Affairs and Government Relations,
The Coca-Cola Company
Mr. William M. Rudolf
Executive Vice President, NCAFP
Dr. David Scharia
Security Council Terrorism Committee Executive
Directorate, United Nations
Mr. David C. Speedie
Senior Fellow and Director, U.S. Global Engagement,
Carnegie Council
Notes
1. See http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/world/panetta- warns-of-dire-threat-of-cyberattack.html?pagewanted=all.
2. http://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/cybersecurity-responding- to-the-threat-of-cyber-crime-and-terrorism.
3. The top four mitigation strategies referred to are: (i) patching systems; (ii) restricting administrative privileges; (iii) appli- cation white-listing; and (iv) creating a defense in-depth system. See www.dsd.gov.au/publications/Top4 Mitigation Strategies to Protect Your ICT System.pdf.
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4. The Financial Stability Board (FSB) was established to coordi- nate, at the international level, the work of national financial authorities and international standard-setting bodies and to develop and promote the implementation of effective regula- tory, supervisory, and other financial sector policies in the inter- est of financial stability. See www.financialstabilityboard.org.
5. Article 230(b) of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 states that it is the policy of the United States, ‘‘to promote the con- tinued development of the Internet and other interactive computer services and other interactive media [and] to pre- serve the vibrant and competitive free market that presently exists for the Internet and other interactive computer services, unfettered by Federal or State regulation.’’
6. ITRs serve as ‘‘the binding global treaty outlining the princi- ples which govern the way international voice, data and video traffic is handled, and which lay the foundation for ongoing innovation and market growth.’’ According to the ITU website, ‘‘[t]he ITRs were last negotiated in Melbourne, Australia, in 1988, and there is broad consensus that the text now needs to be updated to reflect the dramatically different information and communication technology (ICT) land- scape of the twenty-first century.’’ See http://www.itu.int/ en/wcit-12/Pages/default.aspx.
7. While it was initially assumed that the attacks emanated from a state actor or terrorist group, operation Solar Sunrise investigations revealed that the attackers were actually two teenagers from California and one from Israel. For further information, see http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/ 09/video-solar-sun/.
8. Multi-Protocol Label Switching. 9. This statement was made by U.S. Army Gen. Keith B. Alexan-
der, Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) and Commander of the USCYBERCOMMAND at an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) event on July 9, 2012.
10. Defense Secretary Panetta spoke of an imminent ‘‘cyber Pearl Harbor,’’ warning that the United States was ‘‘increas- ingly vulnerable to foreign computer hackers who could dismantle the nation’s power grid, transportation system, financial networks and government.’’ The speech was given at an event held at the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York on October 11, 2012. See http://www.nytimes. com/2012/10/12/world/panetta-warns-of-dire-threat-of- cyberattack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0.
11. Harvard Professor and strategist Joseph Nye has talked about ‘‘high-cost’’ cyberdeterrence strategies such as ‘‘naming and shaming’’ the country where the attack originated: A country that engages in such attacks might be regarded as a risky place to do business, to invest, to keep one’s money. He notes, how- ever, that making that kind of subtle deterrence work requires a much better ability to attribute an attack to a specific nation, and maybe to specific actors inside that nation. David E.
Sanger (June 5, 2012), Confront and Conceal: Obama’s Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power (Kindle Locations 4280–4282). Random House, Inc., Kindle Edition.
12. For example, both China and Russia were openly named in the Annual Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Col- lection and Industrial Espionage published in November 2011 by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
13. http://www.ewi.info/fighting-spam-build-trust. 14. See remarks of Harold Hongju Koh, the U.S. Department of
State’s Legal Advisor on ‘‘International Law in Cyberspace’’ at the USCYBERCOM Inter-Agency Legal Conference, Ft. Meade, MD, September 18, 2012, at http://www.state. gov/s/l/releases/remarks/197924.htm.
15. In November 2011, China and Russia backed by Takikistan and Uzbekistan tabled a proposal for an International Code of Conduct for Information Security. The Chinese–Russian proposal discusses the security challenges cyberspace presents to the international community and proposes the need to establish rights and responsibilities of states in pro- tecting information networks and cybernetworks. The proposal says states should respect domestic laws and sover- eignty, but also calls for a multilateral approach within the framework of the United Nations to establish international norms and settle disputes about cyberspace. See the Letter to the UN General Assembly from China, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan at http://www.citizenlab.org/cybernorms/ letter.pdf.
16. In addition to the aforementioned Code of Conduct that tabled with China, Russia has also developed a draft con- cept for a Convention on International Information Security. Presented to an international meeting on information security in September 2011, the draft convention focuses on provisions to reduce information flows that could pro- duce social unrest or other destabilization in countries. For the draft convention, see http://www.citizenlab.org/ cybernorms/russian.pdf.
17. UNIDIR and CSIS are currently undertaking an assessment of national capabilities, doctrine, organization, and building transparency and confidence for cybersecurity.
18. A presidential commission chaired by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld warned in 2001 that the United States is ‘‘a prime candidate for a space Pearl Harbor.’’
19. See http://www.dtra.mil/Missions/nunn-lugar/nunn-lugar- home.aspx.
20. See the following articles for additional background on the UN GGE process: http://www.unidir.org/bdd/fiche-article.php? ref_article=3179; http://munkschool.utoronto.ca/canadacentre/ research/developments-in-the-field-of-information-and-teleco- mmunication-in-the-context-of-international-security-work-of- the-un-first-committee-1998-2012/; and http://belfercenter. ksg.harvard.edu/files/maurer-cyber-norm-dp-2011-11-final.pdf.
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