Psychology Topic and Mode Rationale Assignment

1. Audio: What does Freedom of ‘Religion Mean’ I

2. Audio: What does Freedom of ‘Religion Mean’ II

3. Audio: Lessons for America, From Winston Churchill

4. Audio: A Nation Abandoned by God I

5. Audio: A Nation Abandoned by God II

6. Presentation: Helping a Single Mom

7. Presentation: How Tough It Is to Be a Parent

How Tough It Is to Be a Parent:

Just how tough is it to be a good parent today? Dr. James Dobson for family talk, a

couple of years ago, I asked 11000 mothers

and fathers to describe their

greatest frustrations and raising kids. I heard all kinds of

goofy stories and response about Sticky

telephones and wet toilet seats and shoe strings and

and not one mother actually wanted to know why it is that a toddler never throws up

in the bathroom. That would violate

some kind of great unwritten law of the universe to be sure. But in my poll, parents didn't merely laugh about their frustrations. They tended to

blame themselves. They said they were overwhelmed and

we're losing confidence and

didn't really know how to cope anymore. How sad it is that this angel

responsibility of raising children

has become so burdensome and

guilt latent. Actually the facts won't support that self

condemnation. In the majority of cases, millions of parents

have handled their child-rearing

responsibility with great skill and it's time that someone patted him on the back for their commitment

and their sacrifice. And someday when

the frustrations of toddlerhood and the turmoil of adolescence have passed, they'll enjoy this

sweet benefits of a job well done. Hang in their

moms and dads. Your kids will be for the mere blink of an

eye here more head. My family talks.com,

my family talk.com.

Helping a Single Mom

Dr James Dobson. Many years ago my wife Shirley

was working around the house. Came at the front door when she opened

it there stood a young woman in her late teens who called herself Sally I'm

selling brushes she said and I wonder if you'd like to buy and. Told her she wasn't interested in. No one else's either and with that she began to cry Shirley invited

Sally to come in for a cup of coffee and she asked her to share her story Sally

turned out to be an unmarried mother who was just struggling mightily SUPPORTER

two year old son that night we went to her shabby little apartment above a garage

to see how we could help this mother and her toddler when we opened the cupboards

there was nothing there for them and nothing they had. A can of spaghetti we took

her to the market and we did what we could to help her get her

feet now Sally is obviously not the only single mother out there who is desperately

trying to survive in a very hostile world and they could sure use a little kindness

to babysit to have a meal brought over to have someone repair

the washing machine or just show a little thoughtfulness raising

kids all alone is that toughest job in the universe you suppose there's someone

in your neighborhood who's going down for the third time how about giving

that single mother a helping hand not only will it bring encourage went

to the mom but one or more children. To change stocks and.

What Does Freedom of 'Religion' Mean I

Hi everyone, Ryan

Dobson here. Hope you're enjoying

your coursework this week today we're

going to listen to a classic broadcast

on religious liberty. So without any

further ado, here's family talk. Well Ryan, we're

going to talk about human liberty on

our program today. And I want to begin by asking you a

question and I'll put you on the spot here. This is a one-item

test pass or fail. Do you remember

the primary reason the Pilgrims came to

this country in 1620. What led them to leave

the East Midlands in England for what became Plymouth,

Massachusetts. And why did

they start life over in the new world despite not only

the inconvenience, but the danger

and the other trials that they experienced, why

did do that? But I think it was in the third or fourth grade that I learned

they were escaping religious persecution

and came to the New World to have religious freedom and freedom of worship

where you are, I don't target Ryan, you pass the test. It's why religious liberty is the most fundamental of all our freedoms and why it must be guarded

and protected, especially today when it is under such

unrelenting Assault. We've seen the passage of hate crimes

legislation this year, which threatens the rights of pastures and clergy to preach their

interpretation of Scripture

from the pulpit. I still can't believe that's happened,

but it has. And of course, we're now witnessing the

court striking down the expression

of faith in the public square

in numerous venues, including the District Court Judge in Wisconsin who declared the

national day of prayer is

unconstitutional this year. And of course, the war on religious freedom just

continues on and on. It's gathering momentum throughout the nation. We did a radio program on that just several

weeks ago. But now, a new threat to religious liberty

has begun to appear. In the words of

President Obama and Secretary of State

Hillary Clinton. That has culture

watchers alarmed. And I want to let

our listeners here what Mr. Chuck Golson said several days ago on what he calls the

two minute warning. We're going to

play it again, but you can hear it on our website at my

family talk.com. Let's let our

listeners here. What Misty Copeland said. Hi, I'm Tucker

Carlson with this week's

two-minute warning. If you read George

Orwell's classic novel, 1984, you'll recognize

the term Newspeak. Newspeak was the

language of big brother, used to control

people's minds. Newspeak

manipulated words, change their

meaning and even eliminated some

of them like freedom from

the vocabulary. Well, that's December Georgetown

University secretary of State Hillary

Clinton delivered a speech where she ever so subtly engaged

in Newspeak. And I can only conclude she knew what

she was saying. Speech was about

human rights. And here's the heart

of what she said. And I quote, to fulfill

their potential, people must be free

to choose laws and leaders to share and

access information, to speak, criticize

and debate. They must be free to

worship, associate, and the love and the

way that they choose. Just two sentences. Mrs. Clinton reveal the

government's desire to diminish freedom of religion and elevate

the Gay Agenda to the level of

undeniable even right? Yeah. Okay. I can hear

some of you saying Chucky going to go

for on this one. I only wish I were

twice in her speech, Mrs. Clinton referred

to freedom of worship. But freedom of worship

is not the same as freedom of religion

is guaranteed. And the Bill of

Rights, writing in the Denver

Catholic registers, theologians,

George, why go hit the nail on the

head? Let me read. Religious freedom

includes the right to preach and evangelize, to make religiously

informed moral arguments in the public square

and the conduct the affairs of one's

religious community without undue interference

from the state. If religious freedom only involves the

freedom to worship, then there's

religious freedom in Saudi Arabia where Bibles and evangelism or

forbidden but expatriate. Filipino labor is

kinda 10 mass and the US Embassy

compound in Riyadh. Mrs. Clinton was not so subtle when it came

to the gay agenda. Is there a fundamental human freedom as

she claims to love in the way

you choose Apple, not with incest,

bigamy, and pedophilia. Nevertheless, as

why they wrote, the promotion of the

so-called lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender agenda

had just been declared a human rights priority of the

United States. In the same sentence in which the

secretary of state, often an anorexic description of

religious freedom. The distinction between

freedom of worship and freedom of

religion is critical. Can you imagine a day when the government

says to a church or religious organization worship anyway you want. But EBITDA higher

practicing homosexuals, you'd better buy

insurance to cover your employees.

Abortions. Due to their fruits

and homosexual, The he did this. Well, I can imagine. I'm also not surprised that the administration

has yet to fill that they can post of ambassador at large for international

religious freedom. It's managed to

appoint someone to the Equal Opportunity

Employment Commission. That was said she can

imagine the case where gay rights wouldn't

trumps religious rights. Here's the point.

Soaks. We Christians must never forget this. Freedom of religion is a fundamental human right, precisely because we are made in God's image and freedom itself is inherent in the very nature of God. God is His

goodness gives us the freedom to solve

the endpoints. Thus, freedom of

religion is from dad, not a gift from the

Secretary of State. It's not a concession

by government. No, No Secretary of State, government has

the right to take it or define it away. Make this point clear to your friends

and associates why you still can. I'm Chuck, goals. That's this week's

two-minute warning. Well, those are

very strong words and we place to call to check wholesome to discuss his concern with us and to elaborate on it. He of course is the founder of Prison

Fellowship and the author of many

books that have had a great impact on

Christian thought. Also with us by phone is Professor

Robert George, who is a Professor of Jurisprudence at

Princeton University and one of the most

articulate defenders of the Christian

faith in the world. And I'm delighted to have him both the

with us today. Chuck, let me let

me go to you and ask you to elaborate on why there is that urgency that I

detect and others do. And in what you

had to say, Well, John, thank you for doing this broadcast. I'm thrilled that we're going to be able to

talk to your audience about this issue because it is absolutely

fundamental. Liberties depend on the

freedom of religion. It's so basic,

as Ryan said, it's why people came to this country in

the first place. Why people tweeting

today where people take refuge

here because we're free to exercise

or religious faith, which is entirely different than

just worship. I first heard

about those months ago and I didn't do much about it because I thought maybe she just misspoke. And then I discovered that no, she

didn't misspeak. This is a policy or the Department of State than it is to treat the two terms

interchangeably. That's never been

said before. It's never been part

of any policy before. Franklin Roosevelt,

what's called the four freedoms and included

the freedom of worship. But that was the time when religious liberty

wasn't even. There was no threat

to it whatsoever. The day it is a

very pregnant word in a very critical

distinction, what I also

discovered was that President Obama has used the term several

times and speeches. Now, that's no

coincidence, That's right,

puedo correctly. I know having

been on the way that I was working

with the president, you massage every

single word speech. There's no word in there

That's inadvertent. But there is a wheel

concern on my part, a deep concern that Christian people

have got to understand this. I

spoke about this. My pastor called me up

suddenly ago in church to explain us to

the people and I did what people call

them afterwards. We never thought there

was any difference between worship

and religion. At a couple of

people said to me, we've heard your

explanation, was still not sure

we understand it. I'm thinking to myself, we're going brain-dead. If we don't get

this, this is really vital. This is good. But this is the

greatest threat to religious liberty

of my lifetime, because it's all well, it's redefining

the word and will give new

meaning to it. But the words

are the costs. Bill of Rights are

very, very clear. Congress shall make no law respecting an

establishment of religion that

has no state, church, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. That means free

exercise of religion, not just the

right to worship in the privacy of my home. Where do you think

the president and the secretary want to

take us with this? What's their goal? Why snake, once

again, BM blade year, I have to I to challenge anybody's motives

and I don't want to impugn any

one's motives. Like I don't

know for a fact, but I can only conclude that in the light of many other

statements that have been made and the

way in which they've created the faith-based

office and the way in which they've created the International Commission on

religious liberty. That they are downplaying the role of religion

in public life. They are perfectly happy

to have us worship, but they sure don't want us talking about abortion, homosexuality or rights, or human rights issues

that they look at. Hillary Clinton

went to Beijing when she was

the First Lady, made a passionate

speech on human rights and no word. And now she lived

her first trip to China as

Secretary of State. He, there were

mentioned human rights, the right to the issues they were concerned with, with the environment and international economics

and military. The questions and she's specifically ignore it. Human rights. So

what am I to say? Makeup all of this. They want to

reduce religion simply to the privacy of our homes or our churches and keep us out of

the public square. That's exactly and

that's what every person who has been a

totalitarian or a statist, someone who values in

the central power. The state has always tried to do this

because they are offended by the scandal of the Star of David and the scandal of the Cross. Professor George,

thank you for joining us today to are you also

concerned about that, what some people would see as merely a shift

in language? Yes, Jim, I'm I'm deeply

concerned about it, but I have to

say that this does not surprise me. The liberal

project over many, many years now

has included what the great church

state scholar at Notre Dame Law

School Professor Gerard Bradley calls the privatization of religion. This is the idea that religion certainly

should be tolerated, freedom of worship

should be respected. The private practice of religion should

be respected. But religion has no

legitimate place in the public square

engaging with issues such as abortion

and, and marriage. So the project

really has been, and this is not something

under the table, it's not something that

liberal activists, scholars have hidden. They'd been quite

explicit that the project is to

render religion is essentially private

matter and to remove it from the public sphere. Let's Jim, look at a couple of examples

that I think will make clear the difference

to your listeners. It's one thing to respect the right of Catholics

to attend to mass, the right of Protestants to tend to

worship service, the right of Jews to participate in a theater, in their films

and so forth. Those are regarded

as private. I have it matters.

But what about this? What about a Catholic or Evangelical

Protestants were Eastern Orthodox

agency that assists with the and children

to adoptive parents. May a law such as law in Massachusetts

legitimately require them to place children in same sex homosexual

households or not. Now, I would argue, and people who

believe in the public role of religion would argue that no state should not be able to require religious

organizations, Christian and other

organizations, to violate their

moral beliefs. In that way. The folks on the other side

think it's perfectly legitimate and

no violation of anybody's rights to force. Those religious

organizations choose either to violate their

conscience and place children in

homosexual homes, or go out of business. Or take one more

quick example. Another real life example. The example I just gave is real life for

Massachusetts. Here's a real life

example from New Mexico. An evangelical

Protestant woman who have a little

business as a wedding photographer

was asked by a same-sex couple to photograph their

blessing ceremony. She very nicely, very respectfully explained

that as a Bible, believing Christian,

she could not perform that service. She could not participate in same-sex

blessing ceremony. It would violate

or moral beliefs, the Christian

moral beliefs. Well, she was reported to a state agency that

imposed upon her a $7,500 fine for allegedly violating the civil

rights code in the state, which forbids

discrimination based on sexual

orientation. In other words, that

woman's freedom of worship may have

been respected. She can still go to

church on Sunday. She can pray in her home. But her right to live

her faith and honor, her own Christian

moral beliefs was utterly taken away. She was deprived

of that right. And the liberal movement

seems perfectly content to have

that be the case. In fact, they want to

advance that agenda. And I really hope

that our listeners heard within your words, both of you is that there appears to be

a linkage between the change in wording from freedom

of religion to freedom of worship to

the homosexual agenda. And that, that is what's

driving this change, this word game

that's going on? Can I add

something to that AS it's not just

the gay agenda, it's the abortion

agenda as well. If I find it more example, they would be examples of situations like this. Nine nurses in LA on Long Island and working at a hospital on Long Island. Our disciplined by the hospital that

they worked for, for declining

to participate in abortions because their Christian

faith forbids them from taking

part in that, taking in the killing of innocent human beings. Now, these women stood

up for their rights. They fought back and they got their jobs back, and they also

got an apology. But this just shows you that it is not simply

the gay rights agenda, that's the abortion

agenda as well. There are many,

many people in this country on the

liberal side of the, of the fence, who, in good faith, it's what they

honestly believe. Believe that

people should be forced either to

participate in abortions or perform

abortions if they are nurses or doctors or other health care workers, or go find another job. There's no respect

offered to their religious

consciousness to him. Let me, let me add one thing to what

we just said. Because this poison

beautifully with what we're deeply

involved in losses. Why? A year ago, a lot of us got together and started writing it, working on something that you Jim supported

enthusiastically. Original signers called

them and I haven't declaration and get that up Manhattan

declaration.org. But that's the statement

in which we reaffirm our commitment

to the three fundamental moral truths of society the day. Three fundamental

moral issues, life and liberty. And it concludes with words and become

very prophetic. When we say, we will want to grudgingly

render to Caesar, what is Caesar's, but

under no circumstances will we render to

Caesar, what does God? And we're going

to have to make that choice pretty soon. I think that's one of the reasons we wrote

that document. It's one of the

reasons for 165 thousand people have signed a Manhattan

declaration. 65 thousand find a corresponding

document in Britain. It's because

around the world I think people need to are waking up to the fact that if we

don't take our stand, that we are going to

be run over quickly. We will be no better off than the Christians in China who can worship

in the state church. If they talk

about any issue, they end up

thrown in jail at Jackie and I were talking last week about that. And that's you actually said to me that

we might not have a great deal of

time to defend the religious

liberty that we've inherited from our

founding fathers. So I don't think

we do a gym. I think that's why

that might happen. Declaration is so urgent. That's why I did this, this broadcast

on my website, which by the way of

Carlsen Center.org. And people would

go and see them and send it

to their friends because this was

a wake-up call that the Hastings case for Hastings Law

School case, which the Supreme

Court just decided five to four against

the Christians. He's white, to keep homosexuals out of

positions of leadership. The deciding vote was cast by Justice Kennedy, our friend who appears and all the abortion cases for personal autonomy

of defining life according to

your own values. But what he says at the very dismissively says, loyalty oaths are on

the way out anyway. What does he

really saying? If somebody believes that they are loyal

to the Bible, loyal to God's teachings, that we can't

make that oath, we can't live that. That is exactly the wedge point and

Robbie is right. It's not just over

homosexual relations, it's over the whole sexual and personal

autonomy issue. That's what's driven

every wanted. Going back into

Roe versus Wade, the right to privacy implied in the

constitution. And you take every one of the major cases that have shifted a mol balance in this country

from one that respected Godly values to one that has

become secular. Every single one. It's over the issue of sex and personal

autonomy. Jim. Yeah, I'll just add

to what Chuck said. The Hastings

case, which is also known as the

Martinez case. In that case, the

Christian group who's right to restrict

its membership to those who shared

Christian belief. And we're willing

to live up to the Christian moral

code. In that case. And group did not exclude

people who happened to be homosexually

oriented or experience

same-sex attraction. Anyone who was willing to live by the moral code, live by Christian

biblical principles, regardless of their

inward desires, was welcome to

be a member of the group and indeed a

leader of the group. So the, the only

question was, will the group be

entitled to insist that its members and

its leaders actually live by the

Christian faith, hold Christian beliefs

and their shockingly, the court said that

the university state sponsored law school

was within ifs right? In work wiring that this Christian

group at MIT, quote, all commerce, even into leadership

positions. So under this rule, they'd be forced

to accept people who were atheists as

leaders of the group. People who practice

the fatal masochism or group sex or

anything else, there could be

no exclusions. Now, I don't the risk I think quite as good as grave at it sometimes

made out to be i, there will be real

consequences like people forced out of

their professions. Agencies,

religious agencies forced out of business, religious institutions losing their

accreditation. People subjected to

monetary fines for violations called the non-discrimination

rules. So there's a

real threat to religious liberty

here that we can acknowledge and rightly

begin to combat, even if you share my view that we're not

at the risk of, of what goes on in

China or Korea. You know, Professor

Jones just seems this is a one-way street. You know, you talked about the nine nurses being penalized for not

participating and abortion, which is actually telling the lice, the yield. Has. A high school sued if they pray before

a football game, which is essentially

somebody sitting and

listening because you don't want to listen, don't listen,

but you're not being asked to kill somebody and they'll be internalized and

signed for that. That seems egregious,

in my opinion. Ryan, you're

absolutely right. I agree just that the

right word, chuck, as I already introduced some concepts from

George Orwell, there was another

English writer who we might invoke here. That's Lewis Carroll. You remember

what happens in Lewis Carroll and

Alice in Wonderland? His great work when, when Alice Goes Through

the Looking Glass, everything is upside

down and topsy turvy and the reverse

of what it should be. And to some extent, the courts and some other governmental institutions

are taking us through the looking

glass where right is considered wrong

and wrong is considered right up

is down, down is up. Martha Copley who

lost her bid for the United States

Senate when she ran for the Edward

Kennedy's seat. Made this statement. You can have

religious freedom, but you probably

shouldn't work in emergency

rooms, flights. That's what she said. Because what did she want to do in emergency rooms? She wanted to force nurses to participate

in abortion. That's it. Now. Now, that

is a great task. Violation, not only

of human rights, not only have the

right to life, but of the human right, we call freedom

of religion, which shows but

that right is not just freedom

of worship. Freedom of worship

is merely a, the sentiment of

the larger right of freedom of religion. That right must

be respected in all its integrity, which means not

simply the right in one's private affairs to express religious

sentiments or to prayer, to worship, but to act in the public sphere on

one's religious beliefs. And GM and Chuck,

you know, and Ryan, this is part of our

history as Americans, the abolitionist movement, the movement

against slavery, was led by

Christian believers who did not keep

their faith and in the cloth it, in the privacy

of the cloth it, but took their faith

into the public square. The civil rights

movement was led by people

like the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King and the Reverend

Ralph Abernathy, man who took their

religious faith into the public sphere

in order to fight for what was

Justin and right? And it's the same

if you look at any other major

reform movement in the history

of our country, we would really be acting against our own best traditions in

this country if we reduced freedom of religion merely to

freedom of worship. Well, professor

Robbie George from Princeton and Mr. John Coles and the founder of

prison fellowship. Both of them authors, both of them speakers. You can see them on

television off on, they're out there on the frontlines

doing what's right. I appreciate you guys

being with us today. The time went

by Solvay very quickly and we're

just not true. There's a lot more to say. And you both are so

very, very busy. Maybe it's better to just continue

talking right now and we'll record it and let our

listeners here. What we're about to

say Is that okay? Absolutely, with

all of you, what do you all

what coronoid. Love it and I appreciate

the leadership. Catholic will be in touch. Thank you. Thank you all

for listening and don't miss Part 2. Next time on Dr. James

Dobson, family top.

What Does Freedom of 'Religion' Mean II

Religious freedom,

freedom of speech, freedom to assemble,

and they're all written into the

Constitution, dad, and we kind of take

for granted that we have those rights

and we always will, but as we'll hear today, and as we heard yesterday, it's not quite as cut and dried

as that isn't. Ryan. We've now been

doing this program for a couple of months,

nearly three months. And I thought yesterday's

program was one of the best in details,

totally blown away. And it's not because we're congratulating

ourselves, but cause Chuck Golson and professor

Robbie George, who are our guest. And I'll tell you every

time we have him on, they say things

that make me think for days

and we're going to hear the other half of that conversation which was recorded at the end of the program last time. If people missed that one, seriously, go

to our website, my family talk.com

yesterday is they don't

miss broadcast. Well, they were talking about

religious freedom and our concerns about what's happening

in this country. Every day it seems we're receiving new word about court cases or

legislation that slowly chipping away at our most

fundamental rights. As we heard last time, the freedom of religion, this particularly

in jeopardy, as revealed by recent

statements made by President Obama

and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, where they purposefully

referred to freedom to worship instead of freedom of religion. And that there is an enormous difference between those two phrases. And it's vitally important to the future

of the nation that our listeners

understand that distinction. Freedom of worship refers to a private enterprise. How nice of the President and Mrs. Clinton that to give us the rights

to think what we want. But freedom of religion is protected by the

Constitution and that gives us the right to practice our beliefs and advocate for them

in the public square. That's the difference

between them. And it's a difference with enormous implication. He's just can't overstate the importance of what

you just said, Dad. I found what our

guest had to say. Absolutely fascinating. They're both so brilliant

and encouraging. A lot of times

you talk about this stuff and

it kinda gets a little bit

doom and gloom OR the sky is falling, but they're

encouraging their hopeful for the future. And they want us to get

involved throughout our country and

our freedoms do hang in the balance. Ryan and I feel a personal

responsibility to share what we talked about yesterday and other things that I'm reading about what's

taking place in our culture with

our listeners. Guest last time are

very, very busy men. Chuck Carlson is

the founder of prison fellowship

ministries and the author of a number

of outstanding books. Most of them have

been best sellers, focusing on the tenants of the Christian faith and how Christians should

engage the culture. Highly relevant to what we were talking

about last time. Professor Robert George is the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence at

Princeton University. And he lectures mostly on constitutional law and

the philosophy of law. Now, we're going

to jump right into the conversation

with you, Ryan. As you got to the

heart of the issue, you mentioned that

hesitancy that some Christians have about involving themselves in cultural issues

and politics. You know, it's

almost an insult to political

correctness to even participate in this great representative

form of government. And I don't

understand that. And as our friends listen to what was

recorded last time, I hope it becomes

clear that, that absolutely must occur at this time in American

history. Let's roll. I was meeting with a

person yesterday who's a strong believer

who was in the abolition movement

to end slavery. And he said, You

know, we really don't care about politics. We don't really care

how people vote. Any went on and on and on and I thought, okay, the only thing that matters more than anything you can possibly believe, of course, you're

working to end slavery. Politics matters in that our whole

Christian heritage was involved in this. And the young

people have heard this language so often, so many times in so many different forms

that you're right, they have been led down that path well or intimidated to

go speaking out. And because we think we're being called the goods and people say we're trying to impose our

views on others. What everybody forget. Conveniently, bills

that we didn't start this culture or were

living their lives, life was being respected, marriage was

being respected. And all of a sudden, this juggernaut

starts moving. And we wake up and realize that

was taking away fundamental liberties

that we use in protections that

we have enjoyed as a nation from

our founding. We're stuck. We

react and saying, wait a minute, what

are you doing here? But we're not imposing,

I want anybody. They're imposing.

Their values are not exactly what

is happening. It just in the last week, I've become aware of something that

I should have known before because it's, it's out there

and it's been in the historical

literature for, for a couple of 100 years, but it goes back to the Revolutionary

War and it's called the black

robe brigade. Yeah, that's right, yeah, about 1776 pastures

and the clergy became alarmed over

this same issue because they were losing their religious freedoms. Freedoms to preach and speak from the Pokemon. And so they stripped off their black robes

and they took up their muskets and they follow George Washington

into the war. And the NO, the

implication here is that we're calling for another Revolutionary

War and we're not. But we are saying that the American people

had better be prepared to defend

their liberties are they surely

will lose them. And Jim, we can defend them at the ballot box. That's what this

comes down to Ryan is absolutely right. We need to go into the

political sphere and work at the ballot

box to make sure that people are elected who will honor religious liberty to

religious liberty, honor the

sanctity of life, honor, the dignity

of marriage. Marriage is the

conjugal union of husband and wife, the equivalent

of muskets at day 4 or bandwith? Yeah. Chug. I don't want to make you say publicly what

I know you think, but I'm going to do I'm going to

do it any way. You are very, very concerned that the

pastures don't seem to understand

the challenge in the threat to their

religious liberty. Absolutely. I would like to get up on the

rooftops and show, wake up, Kurt,

wake them up, don't realize

what's happening. Used a perfect example of the Revolutionary War. They wouldn't have

been a revolution if all of the past, as particularly

in New England, who were

loyalists, largely read Romans 13 as many of them

were reading it. But they realized

that they had gotten to a

point where they have fundamental

liberties and freedoms were jeopardized

and therefore they supported

the revolution, even though it

was contrary to what many of them had read into

the scriptures, that was contrary to their ideas as

conservatives, it was contrary to

their loyalist feelings and attitudes

towards the Cloud. But they'd get

it because they wanted to protect

their freedoms. And one thing I hope every American has hearing who's listening to that, this isn't just a

Christian issue. If religious liberty goes, so does freedom

of association, so does freedom of speech. So, so, and we'll

go freedom at the ballot box and

we're going to watch, or a country, its basic human liberty and freedom of religion. We, as Americans fight

for the freedom of religion of all people,

not just Christians. Tell me where the

black robe brigade is today. Well, there are some

great leaders, some HTML characters. I don't know what

we would have done in California

where we want a great victory for marriage on

Proposition eight. I don't know what

we would've done without pastor Jim Carla. Easter, easy road to me. And the

African-American church ironically kept the

vote in California. I away and won't be

the supreme irony. If ten years

from now we see that movement through blood, the black churches, to protect human

rights where they are the most

sensitive of all, did as much as anything to protect our human

liberties? Yes. There is a quote that

Ryan just handed to me that's outstanding is from Thomas Jefferson. And he said, rebellion to tyrants is

obedience to God. I'm not sure that many of our religious

brothers and sisters, I agree with that, but I certainly do well

around the world. They do. What up

and broke down the Iron Curtain was

the playful trick, which remain playful with the Soviet Union,

Eastern Europe, and the church

today in China, which is the great hope, a Christian church which is resisting mistake. Let's, let's go back to the Manhattan

declaration. Both of you gentlemen Not only had a role in it, but essentially

eroded, then along with a few others,

made it possible. Chuck, you are

pleased I know with the fact that they're more than 400 thousand people who have signed

this declaration. But that given the

fact that we're a nation of 300

million people, that seems embarrassingly

modest to me. There ought to be

millions who sign it. How can we promote it? Now I suggest going

to be forgotten or is it continuing to

gather support? If continuing

together supports, I'm not as fast as

I would like it, but I think those a chimp gorilla you

are referring to as got up fasting

and prayer campaigns starting for this fall. I think that's

going to give a lot of stimulus do it. The more we can

talk about it, and the more

people recognize why it is so

important and timely. It is a document that actually the three

of us who wrote it, primarily written

by Robby George and Dr. Timothy Jordan, BCE and Divinity School. I kinda held their

coach while they wrote. To, it actually is aimed at the very question we're dealing

with here too. But it's time for the

church to speak up. I don't want to be too

harsh on the church. The church has some wonderful banks

in this country. But I'm getting a lot of serious evangelical

leaders today. For the first time in

the last 30 years, they're saying that

I have in my memory. There are saying, Well, we really ought to

lay off we take, a prominent author has written a book saying

we should take a vacation from politics or a sabbatical

from politics. Please know the hope must be engaged in every

area of life, bringing Christian truth

to bear everything, and protecting

our liberties, what we're doing

and not just for ourselves but for the

good of the country. Everybody listening

has a stake in this. Absolutely. I'm

a signatory to it and believe in it and do hope that many thousands of people who are listening to us today, We'll take that moment to to sign the

Declaration. Tell us how they

can do that. Sure. If they've got a pencil

and a piece of paper, they can write down

the web address. It is simply www dot Manhattan

declaration.org. Org. And if

they go on gym, they'll be able

to join many, many wonderful

religious leaders who have spoken out in defense of the three

foundational issues that are addressed in a Manhattan declaration. The sanctity of

human life at all stages of

the conditions. They already of

marriage, a great conjugal union of

husband and wife, and the rights of religious freedom

of conscience. Are I TO what we are suggesting

to our people? I guess the main

weapons that we have with which to

defend what we believe, our prayer first

and foremost. But then also to, to vote, to make sure

everybody's registered to urge our

fellow believers, those who are concerned about

what's happening in the country to

vote this ball. That is the mechanism that's been given to us. That is a freedom that

we must not ignore. And yet 26 percent of evangelicals in

the last election, general election

did not vote it. That just takes

my breath away. I and then of course, to defend of what we believe through

these documents, including in primarily the Manhattan declaration. Are there other things

you can do up to a declaration but

distributed to all their friends,

to their posture. They're posted a

picture of it. We have a study

guide that they can download on the website, which is a really

great study guide because at 4700 Word

document is one of the finest worldview

propositions or statements that

I've ever seen. It's extremely well-read. We got The only way we'll multiply this and

get to a million, which I want

to see it, but for those jurors out. So anyway, that'll

happen is if you get your friends

to sign out, don't just listen

and say, Well, I've signed that,

I've done my part. No, you haven't. You

gotta keep promoting it. And this latest thing, this latest website

posting that idea that the

two-minute warning that this kind of thing

to be circulated. Because once

people yes, yes. Don't leave

this broadcast. Don't turn your radio. Don't go away

until you have agree right now that you will go out and explain

to somebody else today is the difference between worship

and religion. And then somebody else tomorrow and then

in your church. Get that discussed

because this is the, this is what I see

as the sneak attack. Redefining the

words and then control people's

ideas and values. Ij II. And we've got a very important

election coming up. Remember, all of

the issues we care about will either be significantly advanced

or significantly set back by what

happens in November. That's just the reality. Whether we're talking

about abortion and the sanctity

of human life, protecting marriage

or protecting religious freedom and the rights of conscience. So people need to be

engaged and involved. They need to be

registered to vote. If they're not registered to vote, my goodness, get out there and

register right away. They need to appear

at candidate forums. They need to ask those who were seeking

their votes, those who would represent them in public office. Are you going to stand for the sanctity

of human life? Are you going to stand for the dignity of marriage? Are you going to oppose this administration's

attempt to advance the gay agenda in

foreign policy and to reduce

freedom of religion, freedom of warship, hold the politicians

feet to the fire. This is a great

opportunity. There's a wave

in the country, everybody is feeling it. There's a wave in

the country in a more conservative

direction. Now is the time to

make a difference. People need to be

part of history. Or Robbie, and I'm

going to ask you, checked the same

question in a minute. The wobble is

country look like in five years if we

remain asleep, they absolutely refused to defend religious liberty. It simple, our rights will be severely

constricted. We will be looking back to an earlier time when

Americans truly enjoyed the robust right to religious freedom and not merely the right to private worship

and prayer. We'll be looking

back to a day when people had

the right to honor their own consciences by not participating

in activities they thought were immoral

and wouldn't put their own jobs

and careers in jeopardy if

they say refuse to participate and taking innocent human life by abortion or in other

evil practices will look back

to those days as if they were golden years. But Jim, I believe in

the American people, I really believe

in America and I believe that our Christian and Jewish

and other friends and brothers and sisters are going to step forward. I have a very positive attitude and a lot

of people don't. But I think that this

message is getting out. People are beginning

to understand and they're rallying

to the cause. And in November I

think we're going to see a real difference

being made. Ryan year great passion is the next generation. It is the younger, younger people who have

been propagandize. They have been

twisted and warped. Many of them in

what they've heard in school

and what they've heard in the

culture at large. Is there a chance

of getting through to those who

are 20 and 25 and 30? There is a, you know, I speak a sudden ministry, summer long duck,

David nobles camp and those

kids are on fire. I think it comes

to revival. I think it comes through

the Holy Spirit. It knows. It comes from

knowing the word. It comes from believing in Jesus Christ and pouring

yourself into that. That's where all of my social action

comes from. That's where my

civic mindedness comes from because I am compelled by Christ

to be involved. And you see hope I do, I do see hope if I didn't, I'd be moving

to New Zealand. Better there, Ryan.

Country. Yeah. Just don't take

that grand kid. Chuck, answer the

same question. I'm different from

Rebecca, generation older. And so perhaps I see things and more

apocalyptic terms. I'm really worried about this country

surviving. And I'm worried about it because I think we're staring at the

best in terms of spending money recklessly

and incurring debt. Unless this country

get full of itself and as

willing to start living by its means and start behaving

responsibly and getting off this kick a

personal autonomy and realizing that as

American citizens, we're all in this

thing together. We've gotta work for

the common good. We've got to work

for justice. And why does this

align with Robbie, I think the

American people are going to

wake up in time. But look back

in five years, like we wake up and

there's not much time. Last rep has very little. We probably don't

have five years. No, I don't think we

do unless we change. And as America goes, so goes the world. Free world,

that's for sure. Yeah, that's certainly

writing it was free. I think it'll

end of the day. It's very important

to remind ourselves and to remind your listeners that this is really all about love. Not love considered as just some emotional

reaction. But love considered

as genuinely, actively willing the

good of other people. And willing

they're good for the sake of their

good because we understand them as

a precious child of God made in his own

image and likeness. The sexual revolution

been a disaster. It's, it's, it's

carnage is there for everyone to see

broken relationships, ruined lives. It's not love to

advance the gay agenda. It's not love to advance a culture of promiscuity. A fame with abortion. Abortion is not love. Taking the life of

an innocent child is not, is not love. We stand for the child because we

believe in love, we believe in

human dignity. We stand for marriage and sexual morality

because we believe in the dignity of

the human person and we know how the sexual revolution

has damaged people, ruin their relationships, wounded their lives. And we stand for

religious freedom because it's at

the foundation of the dignity of the human

being as a creature made in the image

and likeness of God. A God who is, as we Christians

understand of love. Well, our time is gone and I can't

tell you how much I appreciate Professor

Robby George and Mr. Chuck Golson

joining us along with Ryan and me here today to talk

about what may be the most important

subject we will deal with this year or

for many years. Because everything we care about is on the line and we need to provide

more information. Ryan, the 40 day fast that Jim Carlo

and others are calling for is going to be

explained on our website. That's right. We've got the

Manhattan declaration to sign and download

at my family talk.com, the 40 days of

fasting and a lot of other things that we talked

about the day. We'll all be on

our website for our listeners to come

and download and we'd really like them

to come there. And that's my

family talk.com. For the two of

you on the phone, is there any last

thing you want to say to our constituency? I think Jimmy, you go, I really appreciate

you're thinking, Oh, well you don't. And I think it is not. We're not talking about politics and part

of this division, we're talking about

working for justice and righteousness in

the name of God's. Whoa, that's

exactly what's beautiful wrap up

by rubbing gym. It's, it's high time that we Christians joined with others who are willing

to join with us. Show the world what the real Audacity

of Hope is. The willingness

to hope for a world that

really is made better because we

respect the dignity of the human being and that's what we're

fighting for. Well, it's talking about

hope a minute ago. Part of my hope is rooted in what the Lord is

doing with each of you. And I appreciate

your courage and so much of what you've done in

recent years and please stay

in touch with us. We want to stand

with you and we want to do

what we can to awaken those who don't yet understand the

gravity of the situation. I love you both and that

we will be in touch. Thank you. And thank you all

for listening. God bless, and we'll

see you next time for another edition of Dr. James Dobson family time.

Lessons for America, From Winston Churchill

Welcome to

family talk with your hosts

psychologist and author Dr. James Dobson, along with Ryan Davisson

and Luann Crane. Thanks for joining us on this family talk

broadcast today. We have something

pretty unique planned, which I know you're

going to enjoy. Doctor, I understand. You'd like to share a little something

about one of your favorite

historical characters. Well then for those

who visit my office at family talk in

Colorado Springs. And they'll notice

very quickly and the entire wall

dedicated to the memory of

Winston Churchill, one of my all time he rose and favorite military

and political leaders. On display there is a huge painting

of Churchill, which again is one of

my prized possessions. Churchill was his

most of our listeners know the Prime Minister of Britain for many years. And he rallied

his countrymen during World War II when all appeared to be lost in response to

the armies of Germany. His speeches are so inspiring and they

gave hope and courage to those who thought that

nation was doomed, including those in

the United States. People around the

world thought britain was a goner, but cause France had

fallen in six weeks. And why would

that Britain, without the French armies, be able to withstand

Hitler's onslaught. And at that moment, Churchill stepped

up and gave hope to the peoples of the

free world everywhere. If there was

anybody who ever stepped in for such

a time as this, it was that

gentleman inductor. That painting is enormous. It really does.

Amanda present. How did you come to

get that painting? Well, it's an

interesting story because we were in California and a little

desert town called desert falls right

near Palm Springs. And we were walking

through a mall and there was a little art shop, a little gallery there. And that picture was in the window and I

was captivated. It's a painting that was copy of a

photograph where Western Churchill was

very angry because they had just taken

away his cigar. And he has that

look on his face. But I wanted that painting and it was $3 thousand, which was far

too much money. And Charlene, I had a little argument about it and she was pretty

sure I didn't want it. Then I was pretty

sure I did. She was afraid that we're going to put it

over the bed. Not what I had

in my foreign. But anyway, she won the argument and

I didn't buy it. But our board of

directors heard about this and they took up a collection and got

it for $2 thousand. And when our new

campus was dedicated, they presented

it to me and I've had it on the

wall every sector. I can certainly understand your admiration for

this gentleman, but why do you have it in such a prominent place? You can't miss it when you walk

into your area. There's symbolism

related to it. Luann, as he stood firm, WHO and it was so dark

as I just described. And when there seemed

to be no hope, I have at times felt like I was

in that position, not with that kind

of prominence. But there have

been times in the last 20 years when the battle to defend righteousness

in the culture, to fight for the

unborn child, to fight for the

traditional marriage and its understanding

as being between one man and one woman

was very lonely. Because even sometimes

Christian people didn't seem to get it. I've had people stop

me on the street even as far back as the

mid 1980s and say, Well, I don't

understand why you're excited about

these things, what are the problems? So it was lonely at times, as I'm sure,

Western Churchill was lonely at a time. And for Western Churchill, the one hope that he had that Britain

would be able to beat Germany was that the Americans would

get involved. And when Pearl

Harbor occurred, it was a fantastic

day for him. Cause for the

first time he knew that he would

probably win. And that wasn't

the only way. Well, I have felt that way about

the Church of Jesus Christ

until it decides, has a stake in the defense of

the unborn child. When partial-birth

abortion, where you suck the brains out of a

child, is a wicked, evil thing that has to be an affront to God

until the church sees that as evil and also gets involved

in the fight. There was no hope that people like me could win. And so that picture was assembled to

meet to never, never, never give up, even when it was dark. Because you never know what God's going to do. So that's a

fitting backdrop for year October

newsletter, which is absolutely

inspiring. And let me say quickly,

if listeners haven't signed up yet to get

your monthly letter. They definitely

want to do that. They can do so online at my family talk.com

or give us a call 87773 to 68 25. Doctor, Would you

share that with us here on the rest of his family talk broadcast? I would like to do

it because it's very relevant to what

we just talked about, but also to where

we are as a nation, being right

around the corner from the national

elections. And that's where I start with my monthly letter. All right, let's hear

that difference. Greetings to you all. As you're aware, this country is

only a few weeks away from one of the most important elections

in history. On November the

second candidates for Congress, governors, state representatives,

and local officials, will be chosen

throughout the nation. Together, these men

and women will have the power to promote

the general welfare and protect the

constitution or to damage them irreparably at stake are policies that should concern millions

of Americans, including federal

funding for abortions, amnesty for

illegal aliens, open homosexuality

in the military. Further assaults on

religious liberty and universal health care legislation mounting

to rationing and the denial of

medical services for older Americans. The possibility

of death panels, looms before us. $500 billion in

Medicare funding are expected to be

siphoned from the budget. All of these issues

and many more will hang in the balance

early next month. If the wrong people are retained or put in office, they indiscriminate

taxing, borrowing and

spending practices of the last five years. We'll continue unabated. That will undermine the financial integrity of the family and leave the nation

severely weakened. And none of these major concerns are really new. However, nations grow, we can dye for many of

the same reasons, usually related to

poor leadership, had been reading an

outstanding book that deals with some

of the issues that we're facing which mirror the problems of

the 20th century. It is titled

Churchill by himself, edited by Richard

Lang worth. The book presents 350 thousand of

Sir Winston, 15 million

published words, including 600 pages

of quotations, aphorisms, speeches, letters, and papers from his school days at

Harrell to his death, that is London

home in 1965. He was 90 year. So if you've listened to our broad gas

through the years, you've heard me express great admiration for

this intellectual giant. He served for five decades in the British

government and was Prime Minister during the challenging

and bloody days of World War Two. I was a child at that

time and I heard my father and other

adults referring with awe to the man who stood alone against

the Nazi minuss. I grew up wanting

to know more about this

indomitable leader. And that's been a

lifelong quest. Sir Winston was a

prolific reader with a photographic

memory, which explains the breadth of his literary genius. Much of it is captured in Churchill by himself. A compendium of wisdom with history, government

in philosophy. What strikes me is how

amazingly relevant his perspectives

and pronouncements are to our world today. The challenges we face

are in many regards, recycled and repackaged

from an earlier era. That brings me to the

point of this letter. Churchill's recorded

and written words stand in stark contrast to the policies

and beliefs of the current President of the United States,

Barack Obama. They couldn't be

farther apart. In most instances. For example,

President Obama and his administration

believe that when an economy falters, the government

should increase taxes and spend like

there's no tomorrow. Doing so will supposedly

bring recovery. It's called Kenzie and economics and

it never works. This is what

Churchill wrote. Can't have people tax themselves into

prosperity. Can a man stand

in a bucket and lift himself

up by the handle? And the next, taxes

are in the evil, a necessary evil,

but still an evil. And the fewer of them

we have, the better. And another, when you

borrow money from another country for the sacred purpose of National Rehabilitation, it's wrong to squander

it upon indulgences. That third quote is

sames to condemn the concept of a massive

stimulus package, which in the Obama

era has been funded by loans,

mostly from China. I've over a trillion

dollars and spent on a shameful

array of pork, it became a slush fund for those seeking

re-election. How I wish more of the American people in their congressional

leaders understood the

straightforward principles Sir Winston articulated in these three quotes. It is foolish to believe that a

government can solve an economic crisis by taxing and spending

itself into prosperity. If that were possible, every poor country in the world would confiscate the financial holdings of its people and

wasted on pork and projects and programs motivated by

political power. That predictable into

such wild spending is not national wealth. It's bankruptcy. And that's where

President Obama appears to be

taking us as he and his friends in

Congress are burning their way through the accumulated wealth

past and present, of the most

prosperous nation in the history

of the world. The national debt stands

now at $13 trillion. That projected deficit for the next ten years is

another 11 trillion. With a combined

national debt, 24 trillion or more. That's not sustainable. It was 4 trillion

in the year 2000. Present projections

are only the beginning of our economic troubles. Medicare and Social Security

are almost broke. Anticipated spending

on cap and trade. To address the

global warming myth and further bailouts and giveaways and

redistributions are beyond comprehension. All of this spending

is on the table less than two years into the new

administration. Sadly, we do appear to be on our way to

the poor house. Frankly, I shudder

to think of what US Bankruptcy would mean for the stability

of the world. Gone would be America's ability

to defend itself and the democracies

against tyranny and subjugation. We live in a

dangerous world where biological,

chemical, nuclear, and conventional

weapons are proliferating

rapidly and where electromagnetic

pulse bombs may already be in the

hands of our enemies. Evil dictators such as AAC Medina John from Iran, have already announced

their intention of incinerating the

nation of Israel. America must also

be destroyed if those seeking

world domination or to have their way. Have we forgotten lessons

of 9, 11 already? Churchill wrote, if

you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without

bloodshed. If you will not fight

when you're victory will be sure and

not too costly. You may come to the

moment when you will have to fight

with all the odds against you and only a precarious

chance of survival. There may even

be a worst case. You may have to fight when there is no

hope of victory because it is better to perish than

live as slaves. He also wrote, and

this was back in 1934. Wars come suddenly. I have lived through

a period when one look forward as we do now with anxiety and uncertainty to what would happen in the future. Suddenly something

did happen. Tremendous, Swift, overpowering,

irresistible. And of course,

that was 930 for looking forward

to 930 nine, when World War

II broke out, only a strong

military gives us any hope of survival

in such a world. But as we all know, modern militaries

are horrendously expensive to develop

and maintain, and they cannot

be supported by nations in financial ruin. Furthermore, there's

little motivation to support our

armed forces. Indeed, when the

President wanted to demonstrate his fiscal responsibility

to the media, that was in 2009, he selected a

tiny fraction of the federal

budget to be cut. Guess what? He

considered expendable. You guessed it. Half

of the programs to be eliminated came

from the military, including a new

jet fighter, the F 22 that was already designed and

ready for production, and a vital missile

defense system. We desperately need

another Western Churchill in either political party, the common sense to

support our military. And now some quotes

that mean a lot to me. Let's review what the old Prime Minister

had to say about socialism versus free enterprise

and capitalism. He wrote, the inherent

vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings some people

have more than others. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal

sharing of miseries. Isn't that terrific? And that's really what

it comes down to. Yeah, well annexed quote was also about socialism. Elimination of

the prophet motif and of self interests as a practical guide in the myriad transactions of daily life,

we'll restrict, parallelize and destroy British ingenuity, thrift, contrivance and

Good Housekeeping at every stage of our

life and production and will reduce all

our industries from a profit-making to a

loss-making process. Yet another, socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. And another, the choices between two ways of life, between individual

liberty and state. Domination. Between

concentrations of ownership in the hands of the state and

the extension of ownership over the widest number

of individuals. Between the dead hand of monopoly and the

stimulus of competition. Between the policy of increasing restraint and a policy of

liberating energy and ingenuity

between a policy of leveling down and a policy of

opportunity for all to rise upwards from

a basic standard. I would hope Luann, that people would obtain a copy of this letter. And in fact,

we're going to send it to those on our mailing list or get a CD of my reading it and studied

that paragraph, particularly because

it is very relevant, you really have a choice

between two paths. And when I'm

socialism, the other, free enterprise

and capitalism, and one is better

than the other. Here's another. You may try to destroy

wealth and find that all you have done is

to increase poverty. Isn't that where

we are right now? We've got more

poverty than we've had in many, many years. Because we have chosen principles of socialism. When I see the present

socialist government needs referring to the

British government. When I see that present

socialist government denouncing capitalism

in all its forms. Mocking with derision

and contempt. The tremendous

free enterprise, capitalistic

system on which the mighty production of the United States

is founded. I cannot help feeling

that as a nation we're not acting honorably

or even honestly. Referring to this system of checks and balances, which are Founding Fathers incorporated into

the Constitution. And frankly that

we've lost. Now, Churchill said this, the British race

has always abhorred arbitrary and

absolute government in every form. The great man who founded the American

constitution express this same separation

of authority and the strongest and

most durable form. Not only did they

divide executive, legislative, and

judicial functions, the three branches

of government, but also by instituting

a federal system, they preserved immense

and sovereign rights to the local communities. And by all these means, they have maintained, often at some

inconvenience, a system of law

and liberty under which they thrived and

reached the physical. And at this

moment, he says, the moral leadership

of the world. I love that, quote, Churchill's

perspective on Islam, this May 1 surprise you. The fact that in

Mohammed and law, every woman must belong to some man as his

absolute property. Either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the

final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great

power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid

qualities. Thousands become the

brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen all

know have to die. But the influence of

the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retro, grade force exists in the world. Far from being more

Bund are dying. Mohammed then ism is a militant and

proselytizing faith. Here's a quote from

Churchill about British pieces after

the decision was made in 1933 not to rearm in response

to the Nazi threat. He knew this lack of foresight would

lead to war. And he wrote, it's much better for parties

and politicians to be turned out

of office than to imperil the life

of the nation. Amen to that. You might be interested to know how Churchill

felt about the American press or what he called journalism. This is how he

described it. The essence of American journalism

is vulgarities, the vested of truth. There, speaking

of Americans, their best papers, right, for a class of snotty

housemaids and footmen. And even the nicest people here have so

much vitiate it, their taste as to

appreciate the style. I think that last

sentence means that the British are copying their American cousins. He pulled no punches. Here are two other

pression statements made by Sir Winston. The Americans can always be trusted to do

the right thing. Once all other

possibilities have been exhausted. His very interesting

comment, and here's another

silly people. And there are many, not only an

enemy countries might discount the force of the United States. Some said they were soft, others that they would

never be united. They would fool

around at a distance. They would never

come to grips. They would never

stand bloodletting. Their democracy and system of recurrent

elections would paralyze their war

horizon to friend or foe. Others said that we

should recognize the weakness of this

numerous but remote, wealthy and pocket

the people. That's what they

say about us. But I had studied the

American Civil War, fought out to the

last desperate inch. And he goes on to talk

about World War Two and how the Americans

gave their blood, gave their wealth, and fought to the last

battle for liberty. And of course,

that saved Britain as well as the

United States and the rest of

the free world. Alas, I've run

out of space and time for

this discussion. There are

hundreds of other quotes that are

irrelevant to our political

circumstances and to the upcoming election. As for the views of

Western Churchill as compared to those

of Barack Obama. Let me remind you that on Inauguration Day 20091 of the first decisions the new president made was to send back to the British government

a bronze bust, none other than

Winston Churchill, thereby insulting

our allies from his first

day in office. Perhaps we now know why Obama in Churchill's

perspectives on the world and on governmental policies

radically different. Close by reminding

you again to vote on November

the second 2010, how you mark your

balances your business. The important thing

is that you let your voices be

heard then that to help select the leaders and the policies

that will guide this country for the next two

years and longer. America does

indeed stand at a crossroads that

will determine the direction it takes

in years to come. I pray that you will

join millions of your countrymen at the

polls on election day. May God's blessings be on you and on this

great nation. Well, what a passionate

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A Nation Abandoned by God I

Hello everyone

and welcome to another edition of Dr. James Dobson,

his family talk. I'm Ryan Dobson with Lou and Crane and our host, psychologist and

best-selling author, Dr. James Dobson. Dad, you and mom watched a DVD and it affected you so profoundly that we're going to play the

audio from it today. Tell us a little

bit about what you watched when Sure. And I first saw the DVD of Dr. John MacArthur delivering this message. We were stunned

by what we heard. And we could tell

that the audience was also the silence that came from that

large audience was palpable and

thousands of people were there and

they were sitting in rapt attention as this

warning unfolded. Now, some of our listeners

are not going to agree with what Dr. MacArthur has to say here. But it's going to

make all of us think. And I do agree with what he had to

say on this day. It is consistent with my own perspectives of where we are as a nation, where the American

people are and it is really a world

wide phenomenon. Message that were

about they hear, needs to be heard, especially at this time in our nation's history. Well, let me give a

quick introduction of our guest today. He's a fifth

generation pastor, has served at Grace

Community Church in Sun Valley,

California since 1969. He has a radio ministry that extends

around the globe. It's called grace to you. And those daily

broadcasts are heard on nearly 2000 English and Spanish outlive the way. And dad, He's also

written nearly listen to this 400 books

and study guides. And the MacArthur

Study Bible received the 998 ECPAT gold

medallion award. I've got a copy of

that and we do, do. He is so respected as a biblical

scholar and I know we need

to pay careful attention to his comments. Yeah, I want to say

to our listeners to brace yourself folks. Because you're about to hear something that'll require great

thought and prayer. And as you listen, asked the Lord to eliminate your

understanding of the words that Dr. John MacArthur

was speaking. I believe they

were inspired. Well, let's go ahead

and listen in now here is Dr. John

MacArthur speaking to a packed church at Woodman Valley

chapel here in Colorado Springs on

the National Day of Prayer a short while ago. One of the most tragic

scenes in the Bible. And yet one of the

most familiar to us is the scene of the strongest man

who ever lived, a man by the

name of Samson, finding out he

had no strength. Judges Chapter

16 records this. And here's the

Telling line written by God,

the Holy Spirit. But he did not know that the Lord had

departed from him. So the Philistine

seized him, gouged out his eyes, brought him down at Giza, bound him with

bronze chains, and he became a

grinder in the prison. Sad. He didn't know that the Lord had

departed from him. I can't imagine

anything worse than being abandoned by God to the sons of Israel. Earlier in the book of

Judges in Chapter ten, god said this, you

have forsaken me. You have served

other gods. Therefore, I will

deliver, you know, more. Go and cry out to the gods which

you have chosen. Let them deliver you in the time of

your distress. This was God

saying to Israel, I'm done with you. Abandoned by God. A haunting line. I found tucked away in a little prophecy

of Hosea, chapter four and verse 17. And it refers to Israel

by the name ethereum. And it says this

ethereum is joined to idols,

so says God. The next line,

leave him alone. Sounds out of character

for God, doesn't it? Ethereum is

joined to idols. Bring him back.

Might sound a little more like God. Let him alone. People and nations. Even, even the covenant

nation Israel, can come to a point. Where they are

abandoned by God. Jesus reiterated

this in Matthew 15 when he confronted

the Pharisees. And then describe them

to the disciples. He said this, they're blind leaders

of the blind. Let them alone. When God let you go. It's serious. When Jesus

pronounces over you. Abandonment, it's serious. And I'm going to

say something, you're going to

have to hold it. Hold on to your

seat a little bit. I'm convinced beyond doubt that in the same sense, God has abandoned America. I know that's a

strong thing to say. And I'm going to

show you why. I believe you can see that clearly in Scripture. Open your Bible

to Romans one. Here in Romans

chapter one, beginning in

verse 18, running to the end of the chapter, you have the most

clear presentation of God abandoning

a nation, what that looks like, what happens and

why he does it. This is the most

graphic and the most detailed

and the most comprehensive

discussion of what it means for a people, a society, to be

abandoned by God. And it perfectly describes the moral chaos in

our own nation today. It starts with very

familiar words. Verse 18, For the wrath of God is revealed

from heaven. Now let me stop you

there for just a moment. We're talking about

the wrath of God. And I need to just

let you know that in the scripture and

in reality there are five different

manifestations of God's wrath, Okay? And you will

recognize them. There is eternal wrath. That is that Wrath which God unleashes on the, on believing dead in ****. Eternal rat,

suffering forever, eternal punishment,

that's eternal red. There is also

in the Bible, eschatological wrath, that is the unfolding of divine wrath at the end of the age described in

detail, for example, in Revelation six

through 19, the, the pouring out of God's wrath and the

breaking of seven seals, the blowing of

seven trumpets, and the dumping

of seven bowls of wrath,

eschatological wrath. That wrath is yet to come, as is eternal wrath

for all society it, yet right now there are many experiencing

eternal wrath. All the unbelieving

who have left this world are experiencing third

kind of wrath is what I guess you could

call calamitous wrath. That is that wrath

of God which produces calamity

in the world. And the most notable

illustration of that is the flood, which drowned the

entire world. Only eight people

were saved. Massive wrath on the part of God against sinful men. Fortunately, there is

consequential wrath That's sowing and

reaping wrath. That's the natural end of patterns and

choices of sin, whatever a man

sows you what the reach that's

consequential wrath. But there's this

other category of the wrath of abandonment. It is a form of

God's wrath in which he lets go

of a society and lets it catapult full speed without

restraint in the direction of its

own sinful desires, devices, and choices. That's the wrath

being described here. This is the

cyclical reality of this wrath that has

defined human history. And we'll always, until Jesus comes, as Paul said, in all the

generations gone by, God permitted

the nations to go their own way. I don't believe we're waiting for God's wrath. In this society. We haven't had

massive calamity such as the destruction of an entire city that we, we certainly don't

want that to happen. Pray that does not happen. But it could happen. And God would be just in any calamity that

he brought upon us. We have not entered into eschatological wrath. That comes in

the end times. We are experiencing

all of us do consequential

wrath of sin. But this massive concept of the wrath of

abandonment, I'm convinced, is now

at work in our society. We'd like to talk

about the fact that America

was founded on Christian principles

and God was at the center of it

and all of that. Whatever it might have

been in our founding, it's no longer

the way it is. And I want to

show you how you know that has happened.

Go down to verse 24. You see in verse

24, first word. Therefore, this means

we're now going to see a description

that connects to what has been said. To go back to verse 18, the wrath of God

is revealed from heaven against all on godliness and

unrighteousness of men. And we can stop

at that point, the wrath of God

is revealed. And then it goes on to talk about the wrath of God and the reasons

for the wrath of God. And then in verse 24, it then describes

the wrath of God. And here's the

description. Therefore, God gave them over or God gave them

up in the less of their hearts to impurity that their bodies

might be dishonored among them for they exchanged the truth

of God for a lie worshiped and served the

creature rather than the creator who's

blessed forever amen. For this reason,

God gave them over to degrading

passions for their women, exchanged the

natural function for that which

is unnatural. In the same way

also, the men abandoned the natural

function of the woman, burned in their desire

toward one another. Men with men committing

indecent acts and receiving in

their own persons the due penalty

of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge

God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind to do the things that

are not proper. Being filled with

all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed,

envy full of evil, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit,

malice, gossip, slander, haters of God,

insolent, arrogant, boastful inventors of evil disobedient

to parents without understanding

untrustworthy, unloving on merciful. And although they know the ordinance of God that those who practice such things are

worthy of death. And not only do them, but also give

hearty approval to those who

practice them. Now let me break that

down for a little bit. Three times the verb

gave them over is used. Three times. The wrath of

abandonment is when God gives a nation

over. This verb. Peritomy can have

a judicial sense. It's used often in Greek

literature in terms of law courts and

criminal courts. It comes down to handing a prisoner over

for punishment to even use in the

case of Jesus being handed over for

crucifixion. Each of these uses

of the verb in this text express the

fact that the wrath of God has acted to hand over a society,

to sentence. Hand them over. There comes a time in a nation when God

has had enough. And he literally, let's go and turn them over to the sentence that

they have passed upon themselves by their

incessant sinful choices. See it another

way, they are deprived of

restraining grace. Now how do we know when

this has happened? Note the progression.

Verse 24. God gave them over

in the less of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies

might be dishonored. Among them. Impurity speaks

of sexual sin. The first thing

that happens in a nation when

it is abandoned by God is a sexual

revolution. Moral, sexual perversion, pornographic desire describes the general character of the culture. You can't even count how many million pornographic

websites there are. When a society is

abandoned by God, it operates out of its own perverse

sexual passion without restraint. You can go back to

the sixties and the sexual revolution of the flower children are Hugh Hefner,

Playboy world. And it has gone like

a flood since then. It is characterized by, as you look at verse 24, last, coming

from withinside, as Jesus said,

what comes out of the heart of a man is

what the files him. Leading to impurity. This means sexual

impurity and to the dishonoring

of their bodies, the heart is wicked and the body's

demonstrated. The body follows

the heart. **** conceives

in the heart, James says and

brings forth sin, and sin brings

forth death. So the first

thing that you look for in a society, you're trying to

discern whether God has abandoned that

society is whether or not that

society has gone through the sexual

revolution. So that illicit

sex, adultery, every form of

a morality is accepted as normal

in that society. And were there.

The second step in the progression,

verse 26. God gave them over. Not just two passions

that are explicable, because they're

men and women. But two inexplicable

degrading passions for their women exchanged

the natural function for that which

is unnatural. You know, a society has

been abandoned by God when it's celebrates

lesbian sex. God has given him over gross affections,

unnatural, unthinkable. So you follow a

sexual revolution with a homosexual

revolution. And homosexuality

becomes normalized. Verse 27 adds

the male part. In the same way,

the men abandoned the natural function

of the woman burned in their desire

toward one another. But interestingly enough, the Holy Spirit puts the women first tier

and the men after. Why? The Holy Spirit

refers first to the degradation

of women because they're usually

the last to be affected in the

decay of morals because their hearts are so naturally inclined toward a husband

and toward the responsibility of

nurturing children. But when they

lead the parade, god has removed

his restraint. And the amazing thing

of it is this verse 27. The man abandoning the

natural function of the women burning

and their desire toward one another. Men with men committing

indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error right

into this wrath of abandonment

comes the wrath, the consequential wrath. And even though it generates venereal

disease and aids, they keep doing it. This is what step

2 looks like. And we know this has

come like a flood, but it's not

the final step. The final step

comes in verse 28, middle of verse

28, God gave them over to a depraved mind. Now the version of Bible you may

have unwritten, the numeric

standard might have a different

translation for depraved. Let me tell you what

the word means. Non functional. Than work. Useless. Can't think. Can reason, can

comprehend. And you look at this

world and you say, rampant sexual immorality

out of control, destroying people,

willy nilly, even in the church, even in the leadership

of the church. Homosexuality, same thing, rampant

out of control, demanding to be

accepted as normal. And the society rushing to affirm that acceptance, isn't there anybody in the system who would

stand up and call this what it really is a massive moral disaster. Can't they see it? Can't they figure it out? No. No. First Corinthians

1 says Man by wisdom knew not God. Human wisdom just on its own, doesn't

get there. Then you add that the

god of this world has blinded the minds of them that do not believe. And you've got a

compounding blindness. And then you add the fact that they are blinded by virtue of the sweeping, dominating elements

of their culture. And you're just

not going to get anybody to rise up and take that position and have people

rally around it. This is Dr. James

Thompson, family talk. And if you have

just tuned in, we've been hearing

the first part of a message

delivered by Dr. John McArthur on

a National Day of Prayer not long ago. We will finish up

with that tomorrow. And DR. And Ryan,

the audience, there was

absolutely silent in listening to

this presentation. I mean, there was none of the usual shuffling and

stirring and noise, Lu, and there was a hush over that audience.

I mean dead. What a sobering theme to talk about there that sometimes God does handed people over to their

own wickedness. While I have no doubt that he does that

on occasion, Ryan, and only God knows, when people have

crossed that line. But it does happen then

we know that because we can read about it in a number of places

in Scripture. We heard one example

from Dr. MacArthur who was telling us about Paul's writings

in Romans one, saying that the

people became so evil that God finally gave them up to

a rep, probate mine. That is a terrifying you to think about

it for God to say, I want to listen

to you anymore. In fact, one place in

Scripture, he says, I will stop my ears

when you cry because you have rejected the God of Abraham,

Isaac, and Jacob. He also turned his

back on King Saul. My father used to preach about this and

I remember how dramatic it was when

he talked about Saul sending

grievously and repeatedly

against the Lord. And the Lord finally

cast him off. Solve understood that and even admitted that he had violated the Lord's

command and he asked samuel to

forgive him. And Samuel said, you have rejected

the Word of the Lord and he

has rejected you as king over Israel. There is a later

verse where we read of Samuel

grieving over Saul. He loved Saul. Saul was his king and he

was grieving before the Lord for

what it app and desal and was obviously

praying for him. He doesn't say that,

but it's inferred. And the Lord said

to them, Samuel, How long will you

mourn for Saul? I have rejected

him telling him essentially

stop praying form. Yes, not going to work. I've rejected him. I don't hear is

cries anymore. It makes me wonder about my own country which has now murdered more than 50 million

babies since 1973. And we have done

it cold-bloodedly. And I wonder how

long a just God, a righteous

God, will allow us to continue without turning his back on us. It is very scary, doctor. I mean, really

today we've heard a warning message

to our generation. There really needs

to be circulated. I encourage listeners

to pick up the phone, send an email or Facebook message

telling your friends to tune in because Ryan, this has great

implications for the upcoming generation

though it does Lewin. For more information,

please go to Dr. James Dobson.org or call

us at 8777326825. Thanks for listening

and join us again tomorrow for the

conclusion of this presentation with

Dr. John MacArthur right here on Dr. James

Dobson family talk.

A Nation Abandoned by God II

Hi everyone, Ryan

Dobson here, rolling back the

clock to 2012 on the National

Day of Prayer. So here now is Dr. James

Dobson, Family Talk. Welcome to this edition of Dr. James Dobson

family tongue. I'm Ryan Dobson here with Luann crane and

our host is psychologist and

best-selling author and my dad, Dr.

James Dobson. And as we recognize the National Day

of Prayer today, we're going to

hear the balance of a powerful

message we started yesterday about man's

accountability to God. In this series

is definitely full of some

alarming content. But it's especially

important as we learn how we

can pray for our nation and

for ourselves right here on this

National Day of Prayer, last time on

Wednesdays program, dr. John MacArthur started a message about the

different ways that God's wrath is

expressed when a nation turns

away from him. In fact, here's

what your dad had to say about

that yesterday. We heard one example

from Dr. MacArthur who was telling us about Paul's writings

in Romans one, saying that the

people became so evil that God finally gave them up to

a rep, robe, a mine. That is that terrifying you to think about

it for God to say, I want to listen

to you anymore. In fact, one place in

Scripture, he says, I will stop my ears

when you cry because you have rejected the God of Abraham,

Isaac, and Jacob. He also turned his

back on King saw. My father used to preach about this and

I remember how dramatic it was when

he talked about Saul sending

grievously and repeatedly

against the Lord. And the Lord finally

cast him off. And Saul understood

that and even admitted that he had violated the

Lord's command, and he asked samuel

to forgive him. And Samuel said, you have rejected

the Word of the Lord and he

has rejected you as king over Israel. There is a later

verse where we read of Samuel

grieving over Saul. He loved salts,

all was his king. And he was grieving

before the Lord for what had happened to Saul and was obviously

praying for him. He doesn't say that,

but it's inferred. And the Lord said

to them, Samuel, How long will you

mourn for Saul? I have rejected Him. It makes me wonder

about my own country, which has now murdered more than 50 million

babies since 1973. And we have done

it cold-bloodedly. And I wonder how

long a just God, a righteous

God, will allow us to continue without turning his back on us. Lewin, that is a truly terrifying

thought that God would leave us and we

wouldn't even know it because we are so

cold spiritually. Dr. MacArthur was so

articulate through this message that

was given on the National Day of

Prayer short time ago, right here in

Colorado Springs. And he was talking

about what he explained as God's wrath

of abandonment. And if anyone didn't hear yesterday's part of

the presentation, we have that

archived online at Dr. James

stops and.org. I will mention that

Dr. MacArthur, as a respected

Biblical scholar, a powerful man of

God who has written nearly 400 books

and study guides. And to begin today, we're going to roll

back a little bit to give you context to what he's about to say. So here now on

this family talk broadcast, Dr.

John McArthur. The final step

comes in verse 28. Middle of verse 28. God gave them over

to a depraved mind. First, Corinthians

1 says Man by wisdom knew not God. Human wisdom just on its own, doesn't

get there. Then you add that the

god of this world has blinded the minds of them that do not believe. And you've got a

compounding blindness. And then you add the fact that they are blinded by virtue of the sweeping, dominating elements

of their culture. And you're just

not going to get anybody to rise up and take that position and have people

rally around it. You're going to have more people in

leadership in the country outing themselves as

homosexuals evening, as you seen a lot of

that even see any of it. Yet. As it becomes more

and more accepted. A depraved mind in the original language

is one that's tested and found useless, therefore disqualified

for its intended use. The reasoning faculty

has been corrupted by the influences

that surround it. And when that happens, and your entire

sense of morality is warped than your conscience

is ill informed, and it doesn't function. We have unconscionable

behavior. And then you laugh at the Jerry

Springer show. Instead of falling

on your face and weeping at the

aberrations. A depraved mind,

reasoning faculty so corrupt that it must be rejected as none

functioning. And as a result of

that, what happens? God gave them

over verse 28 to a depraved mind. So as a result, they do the things

that are not what? Proper, fitting,

sensible, reasonable. What do they do? They're filled with

all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, envy, murder, strife,

deceit, malice. What's that? That's

the nightly news. The local newspaper. Slanders, haters

of God and on and on and on and on. It goes there,

unconscionable. Sweat conscience is,

it's a mechanism God gave you that accuses

you or excuses you. Romans two says, but

only functions if it is morally informed

accurately. And if you have a

culture that has developed an

aberrant morality, then you have

conscience says that function off of that and aberrant

morality. And you get all the stuff, all the inexplicable

behaviors. And that's why in

verse 32, it says, Although they know

the ordinance of God, well, they know, they

know inherently in them Romans to what is right

and what is wrong. They, who practice

such things are worthy of death. They know that they

do him anyway, and they give

hearty approval to those who

practice them. Sexual revolution

down one more step, homosexual revolution

down one more step. Can't ever get your

way out of it. Because the mind, the

cultural mind is Dawn. And I would put it this

way, maybe simply, there's no surer

indicator of a corrupted, wicked, and abandoned society under God's wrath. Then when that

society does not tolerate anger

against sin. It was CS Lewis who said the last experience of the center is the

horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. So Paul is

unfolding for us this picture of what a society looks like

when it's abandoned. That's not my description. Now you see why I said, I think America is here going through

the cycle of Romans. One. Here's why

it happens. Verse 18, the wrath

of God is revealed from heaven in this form of abandonment against

all on godliness and unrighteousness

of men that makes up this society. Verse 18. Who

suppress way? There it is. That's it. They suppress the truth. It's always

about the truth. What truth? Real truth is. Francis Shaffer

used to say the true truth.

Biblical truth. You suppress, this

is where you go. It's amazing how people mock biblical truth today. Amazing. Well, you can figure out a

way to make it so smooth and soft and take out all

the hard parts so it doesn't

have the sting. But if you give the unadulterated

annexed for gated, pure word of God, it will generate a

negative reaction. In many environments. You need to speak

the truth in love, but all we got

is the true. Suppress the truth. Let me expand that

a little bit. Give me four

things to think about for reasons for wrath that have to do with the suppressing

the truth. Number 1, revelation. We've been given

the truth, suppress the truth in

unrighteousness because that which is known about God is evident

within them. For God made it

evident to them. Since the creation

of the world, His invisible attributes,

eternal power, divine nature

have been clearly seen being understood

through what has been made so that they are without excuse. What is this? This is not even talking

about the Scripture. This is talking

about the fact that God is inlaid his truth into the

fabric of man's being. He is not without a

witness to the truth. Look at Chapter

2 for a moment, dropped down

into verse 14. The Gentiles who do

not have the law, do instinctively the

things of the law, these not having the law, our law to themselves

and that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience

bearing witness. Part of being human, like all the other

parts of being human. To be able to think and to make relationships, to speak, and to act in the ways

that humans act. Those kinds of things are the familiar components of what it means

to be human. But another one is the

law of God written in the very fabric of man's nature so that he cannot plead ignorance. In fact, it says in

verse 20 that he has enough of the

law in himself, enough of reason to

be without excuse. Reason is simply a cause

and effect device. Reason is simply thinking our way through patterns

of cause and effect. This leads to this,

this leads to this, this leads to

this, and that's how reason works. Then eventually

you get back to the first cause of the massive universal

effect of creation. So reason is advice

given by God to all human beings

that leads them directly back to him. Don't tell me that one time there was a pile up protoplasm and it

decided to become this. My reason tells me there

has to be a creator. And do you know the

whole world believe that until Darwin came along, Jonah out on the boat. And the sailors, pagan

sailor say to him, well, why is

this going on? He says, well, my

guess, my God, he's dune because

he's punishing me. And so it's my God and this Well,

who's your guy? He didn't say,

well, let's see. He's the Hebrew God. He's, he's the god of the Hebrew people. That's, that's who he is. He didn't say that.

He said this. He said, well, he's

the God who made the earth and the sea. That's a natural

assumption. Natural assumption. Go to Mars Hill,

pulls up there, They have a deal there

for the unknown god. Pulses won't tell you who this unknown goddess, he doesn't say, this is. This is the Christian

God of New Testament. He says, This is the

God created everything. This is the God in whom

we live and move and have our,

Everybody got it. Only in a modern

world when I get it. You go back to God. The massive first

cause of everything. So that's in the

fabric of being human. And you know,

you have to work hard for a couple

of 100 years to convince an

entire society that that's nonsense. And that what makes sense is nobody times nothing

equals everything. And though it

doesn't make sense, it works in a totally

immoral culture. Because if there's

no creator, There's no judge. So reason is

the first thing shows you've got the second thing

is morality, which is built into the

fabric of all of us. And has to again

be cultivated to the point where

you've got a society of people whose

reason doesn't need God and whose sense of morality has been

totally perverted. Here we are. The

society as rejected. God, That's our

second.1 revelation. God has revealed himself

to every person. Second, rejection,

men have turned away from the

truth. Verse 21. Interesting, even

though they knew God, that is humanity, that is society in any given period of time by God's creative design, have the knowledge of moral law and reason

that leads them back to a moral law giver and a judge and a creator. Even though they

know that innately, they did not honor Him

as God or give thanks. But instead of doing what was reasonable

and moral, became empty in

their speculations and their foolish

heart was darkened. And the bottom line is

that they don't like the god there reason

leads them to, and they don't

like the God that their innate sense of what is right and

wrong leads them to. And so they

abandoned that God. And the lights go out. And then you come

up with stuff like a rock is a rap, is a dog, is a boy. Life is random. Truth is relative. People are basically free to do whatever they

want. It's all good. Everyone ought to be free to do

whatever he wants. The goal of life is self satisfaction.

Live it up. And don't let anybody tell you you can't do anything. So they didn't

honor Him as God. They weren't

thankful to him for what he had given. And the lights went

out, they became empty and they're

speculations. They're thinking

their patterns, their ideologies, their foolish

heart went black. Empty human ideas. Now you can't know, God, can't know the truth. But you think

you're smart. We could verse 22. Professing to be wise. Professing to be wise. They became fools. That's the third

step. You go from revelation to rejection

to rationalization. Men insist they're

doing fine, never did better.

We're very advance. Professing to be wise. In fact, it says, professing to be wise,

they became fools. The word is Marina, from which we get more on proud morons giving

each other PhDs. And finally, it

comes down to, goes from revelation

to rejection to rationalization,

to religion. Religion. Right? Verse 23. The exchange, the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form

of corruptible man, Berg's four footed animals and crawling creatures. What religion is at all? How about

environmentalism? Or you worship What? The creation,

not the creator. Wow. Yeah, this is madness. You say, isn't

this man and his highest sees

worshiping? Knows man, it is flavus. False religion is

man. In the pit. He's gone so far down. He's created the fantasy

of false religion. Religion is not man

at his highest, it is man at his lowest. The ultimate insanity is to worship any other than the true guy, right? And so we see

what happens in a society when God turns them over and we see why he turns

them over. And that was just

a quick overview. So we look at our nation. Our hearts are broken,

mind is depraved. They think they're

smart, they're morons. They can't get

to the truth. The mind is

completely gone. They invent

bizarre religions, they become religious. It today they like to talk about being

spiritual, right? I'm very religious,

I am very spiritual. What does that mean?

What does that mean? This is if you can invent your own worship

and urine religion, that's man at his lowest. That's all the way

at the bottom. Total, complete rejection

of the true God and the true faith.

That's where we are. Now the question

is, how do we pray? Turn to Psalm 81. And I want the Holy

Spirit to give you direction here as we

think about this. See if this doesn't

sound familiar. Verse 11. But my people did not

listen to my voice. My word. Israel

did not obey me. So first one,

I want him up. Wow. If he would do that with Israel, the

covenant people. What do you think's

going on in America? We're not a

covenant people. So I gave him over to the stubbornness of

there aren't hard to walk in their own

devices. I let them go. Let them go to

the consequences of their choices. This is God, He's

abandon them. But look at verse 13. And here's the heart

of God that I think we have to grasp in

America in this hour. Here's God, his words, oh, that my people would do what? Yeah, there it is. But they listen

to me. Listen to me that that Israel

would walk in my eyes. Right there, folks, is

your mandate to pray. What do you have

to pray for? You have to pray

for the Word of the living God to be proclaimed across

this nation. It's the answer. Do you think God might react? He said, I love this. Verse 14. I would

quickly like that word. Good word. I don't

get the picture. God's dragon is

Yale's there. I would quickly

subdue their enemies. I would turn my hand against their adversaries. And it would be so great that even the

people who hate me, what pretend to obey me. And then I love this.

I love verse 16. And I would feed you

with the finest of the wheat and with

honey from the rock, I would satisfy you.

That's metaphoric. I just just drown

you and bless the data only once one

thing out of a nation. Listen and believe

this book. There's only one solution, and that's the truth. The truth by

which God saves, by which God sake defies. And if this nation will respond and listen

to his truth, god will open

the floodgates. And we might be the greatest recovery

story in history. But there's no other

way than that. People listen

to me and walk. In my ways. It's not going to

happen. If there's a famine of the hearing

of the Word of God. Pray that the word, as Paul said, would

have free course. And that it would run with all its power

across this land, with all its beauty

and magnificence, all its power and grace, that people would hear and believe and be saved and be obedient all that

to the glory of God. I don't know what

God's plan is. I just see here,

what is hard is that my people

would listen to me. That's the heart of God. And we end with that word of encouragement

there from Dr. John MacArthur during

these last two days on Dr. James Dobson

family talk. They're really we do pray that you

will seek out God more earnestly

and a beseech him on behalf of

our nation, Hulu. And there is great

encouragement and the hope that

he offered in the end of his message, there is redemption

through Jesus Christ. If we come to

him in prayer, asking for forgiveness and falling on our faces

in repentance. And as Dr. MacArthur

said, if we do that, the Lord will quickly

subdue our enemies. Even the people who hate God would pretend

to obey Him. And that is a

wonderful prompt. And that is our

prayer today, on this 60 first

National Day of Prayer is that our nation would truly repent

before God. Christians included

as we asked him to save our great nation and restore himself to us. Now some 3312 says, bless it is the nation

whose God is the Lord. And we will be blessed

if we turn to Him. Amen Luann, thank you all for listening

and God bless, and we'll see you

again next time for another edition of Dr. James Dobson family talk.