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The unique and ongoing challenges of women as leaders has received much renewed discussion and dialogue, sparked a few years back by Sheryl Sandberg's "Lean In" book and associated TED talk. Other levels were added through the multitude of harassment stories, gender in presidential politics, and leadership during the COVID crisis.

Drawing on this week's wide ranging material about women and leadership and contemporary events, respond to the following forum prompts about our film "case study" Elizabeth:

How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender? "Confidence" and "executive presence" are two key elements of effective leaders -- and some observers argue that women faced particular challenges in these areas. Where did you see Elizabeth struggle in these areas and how did you see her evolve? Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? What has remained largely the same? Be sure to pull in the readings to illustrate your thoughts on this question

Original forum posts should be a minimum of 500 words long. Successful forum posts draw explicitly, consistently, and thoughtfully on the week's material.

The two responses to colleagues should be at least 150 words each.

Due to our use of a film as a "case study", all forum posts are due Sunday by 11:55pm.

Forum grading rubric:

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How does Elizabeth's gender play in the male dominated power dynamic of mid 16th century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

Though I believe Elizabeth's gender wasn't the main concern for the Lords of England, but her religious tolerance. Elizabeth's sister Queen Mary was the head leader of England, and the Lords seemed to obey her but not Elizabeth due to her being a suspected protestant. That being said, Elizabeth being female caused others to doubt her leadership and her independence as an individual. Once Elizabeth comes to power, all the others want is to shift the power to a new king and produce the next heir to the throne. One Lord tells Elizabeth's servants to keep tabs on her personal bodily functions because "her body belongs to England," here, we see that the male-dominated power dynamic of 16th century England believes that men are greater than women and have a say in their decisions. However, Elizabeth seems to use her gender to her advantage. The Lords are eager to get rid of Elizabeth but know they need her to marry. Although Elizabeth never displays that she wants to marry, I believe she uses this time to find herself as a leader and identify her friends and enemies.

"Confidence" and "executive presence" are two key elements of effective leaders -- and some observers argue that women faced particular challenges in these areas. Where did you see Elizabeth struggle in these areas and how did you see her evolve?

Elizabeth struggles at the beginning of her reign as the queen but quickly evolves. The first instance when we see Elizabeth struggle with confidence and executive presence is when the Lords of England push her too fight against Scotland. She is pressured to fight without confronting their reasoning. Elizabeth starts to evolve at her first official meeting with the Lords of England. We see her practicing her speech in the act pertaining to religious tolerance throughout England. Throughout her address to the Lords, we see her gain confidence and use her executive presence to harness the emotions of the Lords into passing her proposed act. This confidence and executive presence continue and lead her to England, experiencing a golden era.

Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? What has remained largely the same? Be sure to pull in the readings to illustrate your thoughts on this question

In the present, we can now prove to the disbelievers that women can be better leaders than men. Now that more and more women are becoming leaders, studies with large participant pools have concluded that women are better leaders during a crisis (Zenger and Folkman,

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2020). One of the primary characteristics of what makes a good leader is how they conduct themselves under crisis, which by this research proves that women can get the job done.

In terms of what has mainly stayed the same is the popular belief of social roles between males and females. According to Slaughter (2012), "men are still socialized to believe that their primary family obligation is to be the breadwinner; women, to believe that their primary family obligation is to be the caregiver (n.p.)." With this, women are more likely to choose their family over their career, meaning women are tasked as the primary caregiver for the family on top of trying to grow their career as a leader (Slaughter, 2012).

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Slaughter, A.-M. (2012, June 3). Why Women Still Can't Have It All. The Atlantic. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/why-women-still-cant-have-it- all/309020/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/why-women-still-cant-have- it-all/309020/) .

Zenger, J., & Folkman, J. (2020, December 30). Research: Women Are Better Leaders During a Crisis. Harvard Business Review. https://hbr.org/2020/12/research-women-are- better-leaders-during-a-crisis (https://hbr.org/2020/12/research-women-are-better-leaders- during-a-crisis) .

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I think your post is really well organized and written Adam. I think you've stated well the trials of women in leadership roes as well as touched a little on the evolution of how women are viewed in the the work place. I really liked your "One of the primary characteristics of what makes a good leader is how they conduct themselves under crisis, which by this research proves that women can get the job done." Especially in times like these where a women is actually in a power role as Vice President it is important to notice their cognitive abilities and how they compare equally to men and not just the societal role bestowed on them. The movie depicts what you describe accurately and I especially appreciate what you inferred from its content. I do believe Elizabeth AKA struggle in their new capacities as a result of societal stereotypes they have to overcome first before they can demonstrate their power characteristics.

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Adam,

Great post. I really enjoyed it. I agree with you that more women are becoming leaders at the workplace and many studies have shown that their approach to leadership. Call this evolution but the traits that make a great leader is their ability to be strong and nurturing to the workplace. It is evident from the movie that women are great crisis mitigators. What I did like most about the movie is that Elizabeth was able to “grow up” from an insecure and fearful princess to a confident woman and with an executive presence.

I agree with you on the clarification that her gender wasn’t the obstacle to the lords but her religion. They feared that Elizabeth would change their way of life with her protestant beliefs. It was a shame that the lords were trying to use her only to get an heir for the kingdom. Plus, they were very pushy in getting her a husband in order to have a line of succession in England. But she made her own mind and stayed in power for 45 years.

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Adam,

You brought out a lot of great points and sources within your post. It's kind of crazy to see how far things have come and evolved since Elizabeth. I think that was the start of showing the world that women can be just as good of leaders as men and some (based on opinion) think women can do it better. I personally don't think one gender is better than the other when it comes to leadership, I think one must naturally have trust in themselves to follow through with the decisions they make.

As you pointed out, I think her decision not to marry turned out to be a good one. She took a stand and was stronger for it. While she may have seemed distraught behind closed doors, she was able to pick herself up and reflect a strong confident woman. I found it interesting that one of your sources said women are better during a crisis. I wonder if this is because women are usually calmer in nature?

Nice post,

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Krista G.

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male-dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

During this period of time, Elizabeth was aware of the common belief that women were inferior to men, thus, thinking that women were incapable of leading. Add this to Elizabeth's religious beliefs and you have created high tensions and gained many enemies. Due to Elizabeth being a woman, many did not trust her judgment, however, Elizabeth rises above all this and recreates herself as leader, savior, and a queen much like no one has ever seen. She was a clever strategist and became a strong leader for her people.

Confidence" and "executive presence" are two key elements of effective leaders -- and some observers argue that women faced particular challenges in these areas. Where did you see Elizabeth struggle in these areas and how did you see her evolve?

We all saw Elizabeth struggle at the beginning of the movie where she would often second guess herself and let her advisors essentially make decisions for her. Yes, they were merely suggestions, but she listened and went with what was recommended without making decisions for herself. There was a scene where she was being asked to go to war. Even though you could tell what she wanted her decision to be, she questioned herself and went with what her advisors (men) said to do. It was not until she decided to rule her way did things start going better and she rid all of those who wished or wanted her dead. Elizabeth was being pushed to marry and create an heir, however, she announced there will be "one mistress and no masters." She wanted to rule as she saw fit without marriage or an heir. She ruled like this for 45 years.

As time went on throughout the movie, Elizabeth learned to trust herself and her choices. She stood strong in her beliefs. You saw in the beginning of the movie where her half-sister insisted that she rule as a Catholic leader, she answered, “I promise to act as my conscience dictates.” Elizabeth stayed true even though her sister, the queen, could have had her killed.

Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? What has remained largely the same? Be sure to pull in the readings to illustrate your thoughts on this question.

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A dramatic change has occurred since Queen Elizabeth’s reign. Women are now part of the workforce and hold high successful positions. In fact, women’s workforce participation has increased from 32 percent in 1950 to 57 percent in 2018, while men’s fell from 82 percent to 69 percent.(Eagly,Miller,Kaufmann, 2019). Women have made strides in gaining a high education as well where they makeup of 57 percent of all college students. ("Men or Women: Who’s the Better Leader?", 2008). During the time of Elizabeth, women were told what they can and cannot do, how they should act, who they should marry, and the list goes on.

I think that men still primarily hold “power positions,” and still are considered the dominant gender when it comes to problem-solving. This may be because people usually are resistant to change. The idea of a female president, for example, ruffled many people’s feathers when it was even being considered. While we have come a long way, we still have a long way to go in order to be true equals to men. Today, men are still getting paid more than women who do the same job. Even though this has gotten better than it use to, it is still happening today.

References:

Eagly, A, Nater, C., Miller, D. I., Kaufmann, M., & Sczesny, S. (2019, July 18). Gender Stereotypes Have Changed: A Cross-Temporal Meta-Analysis of U.S. Public Opinion Polls From 1946 to 2018. American Psychologist. Advance online publication. http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/amp0000494 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/amp0000494)

Men or Women: Who’s the Better Leader?. (2008). Retrieved 29 June 2021, from https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2008/08/25/men-or-women-whos-the-better-leader/

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What a great movie to demonstrate how Elizabeth becomes a leader through strategy and as you put it clever infiltration of her strengths to overcome the anti women rhetoric. I really appreciate how you called out her strength came from within and was empowered further by her 'one mistress and no masters' approach to including men. She found her strength over time as most of us (including men) do. It is important however to note men don't have the stereotypical hurdles women get overlaid on their journey to strength and leadership. Men really do hold the primary role in business to date but it is interesting to note as. abusiness MAN myself the inclusion of women and the amount of women holding power roles has increased incredibly and successfully the past decade or two during the height of my career years. My favorite was when I tried to relate with a women leader about her strife and climb to the top of her company food chain and try as I might to relate

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to her strength her only response to me was only , 'You will never know what its like because you re not one (a women)'! Words to live by.....

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Hi Krista,

As a point for discussion, I am not convinced this movie did a great job depicting the gender conflict. I really saw it more as a religious/power struggle. what I think is a lot of people don't realize the lack of total authority that the monarchs of that time period had. it was a weird time, in that they were the absolute authority, yes, but they also had to lead with the goodwill of the church leadership, as well as financially rich lords. If they did not win over the influential lords, they didn't have the military backing or the church which had a massive influence over more than just people's spiritual health. I still believe the film I saw was about a young leader (male or female) and the growing pains of their leadership. That she was a woman is a factor, but not the major one. Having an heir only cemented her position as the heir, well is just that. without an heir, if Elizabeth was removed other people had claims to the throne. With an heir, they would have t poison the baby as well. I didn't see the film the first time it came out so it was an interesting watch, keeping the questions and articles in mind. BTW - I might not be speaking directly to your knowledge of Elizabethan political machinations, but maybe more broadly to folks who are not political history nerds.

I still don't understand how in society we can't recognize the equality of males and females. Your comment about a female president ruffling feathers. I mean how fragile is their male ego? I heard a great argument recently against victim shaming. Some men were bringing up the problem about how women who get sexually assaulted were led astray by the women, by their dress, or attitude, or other wiles. The female on the panel responded by saying how come there isn't an epidemic of lesbian rape instances. I am not really doing justice to the discussion, but I think it comes down to male insecurity and fragility.

Cheers

Deesh

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender? Elizabeth initially played and maybe even really was a little demure and insecure to get her footing and she later grew into ways she could overcome the men advising her and the stereotypes of her time. She was outwitting her obstacles and understood the sexist revolution would not happen over night. She like todays Queen Elizabeth was steadfast and constant in her growth and realization that she was in charge and could lead if she played into and then later out of the hand she was dealt. "Confidence" and "executive presence" are two key elements of effective leaders -- and some observers argue that women faced particular challenges in these areas. Where did you see Elizabeth struggle in these areas and how did you see her evolve? I saw Elizabeth struggle getting her legs as she was insecure at first but evolved into the power of her role as she saw the benefits of leading and not circumming to the men advising around her. I really like classmate Krista I was attracted to and thought worth noting her expression, "one mistress and no masters" can do it all. Marriage did not complete her. Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? What has remained largely the same? Be sure to pull in the readings to illustrate your thoughts on this question. I proudly work with and for a women owned business. It is proud certified by https://www.wbenc.org (https://www.wbenc.org) and a few other women certifiers. which means we are audited and shown to be true that a women is at least 51% in charge and leading our organization. Further this partner of mine is also my wife. Women leaders hold a special place in government procurement as well as in these times of change opportunities that are for women firms to expand and grow in an environment that is either as a subcontractor or set aside. I appreciate the balance between men and women and quite honestly I have already started to break the stereo types in our world by not even realizing we have a women leader. I don't know that I care or even see her as anything different than I would a man in a work environment, collectively we are running a successful company for our mostly women employees and several of our women customer leaders/CIO's. I reacted to our reading about the fact a lot of this change has occurred during my time in business as the 'Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Obama: Performing Gender, Race, and Class on the Campaign Trail" pointed out a large push was in favor of women because the" Obama's race and gender performances may have removed some of the stigma not seen today from "the feminine" may be misplaced, at least when it comes to women aspiring to high public office."

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McGinley, Ann C., "Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Obama: Performing Gender, Race, and Class on the Campaign Trail" (2009). Scholarly Works. Paper 171. http://scholars.law.unlv.edu/facpub/171

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Scott,

Great post. Your comments made me remember part of this movie that plays a powerful role in maybe the how and why Elizabeth was what we are all stating, a bit timid or untrusting. She was locked away by her own sister! Kept away from anything of power, or a life at all. Her uncertainty and perhaps eagerness to trust those advising her seems normal and understandable why she was ill-prepared to take the role on "as-is". Though she quickly learns who is insincere and has motives and agenda's of their own. She does grow into the position of power and authority and makes very hard decisions when it comes to who she will support, turn away from, kill or let survive. Those are decisions men thought she was not able to handle. Her marriage to England was a huge turning point. She was making it clear, she did not need a man to be Queen.

Also - Congratulations on the business!! Women are trailblazers and I think that is largely due to being given an opportunity and fresh eyes, mind and ideas. Sometimes what we need is different, and that would mean gender as well. I appreciate your support for women in leadership!!

Teresa

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Last time I spent so much writing on the first part and did not get a chance to comment much on the latter part of the questions, so I reversed it a bit this discussion.

How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male-dominated power dynamic of mid 16th century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

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This was a significant obstacle to her role as a leader, as it was an obstacle that male leaders did not have to overcome. Not only was it a male dominance issue, but it was also a legal issue as there was some question as to her legitimacy to the throne. But I confess, did I watch the right film? The one with Cate Blanchett in it? Almost an hour into the film was the first reference that I got to any gender issues in the film. At 55:21 she says “I am only a woman” she says this to disarm contentious debate. To this point, the film was a religious conflict and showed the trials that any young ruler would have to face. That of uncertainty, untried, and dealing with competing agendas from her court. As for her marriage, this is a common issue for males or females. Remember at that time this was how treaties allegiances and alliances were formed or broken. Her marriage was a political issue, not a gender issue.

For me, the manifestation of this was her struggle with confidence and uncertainty, but again I didn’t see this come across as a gender issue. When she did under her gender, she used it strategically, as any person would with any positive trait they have. Some men might use force of character, others might use intellect (which Elizabeth did have) and others might use humor. She was portrayed as an intelligent young woman, and who is continually showed as using her smarts to understand the nuances of the situation.

Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? In Slaughter’s article, I think a nuance to bring to her tenure in Washington, as that “she could not have it all” But her “all” was simply a choice in career and path. Proximity had a large part to play in her conflict. For discussion’s sake, I would say that I am not particularly sympathetic to her. Simply choosing a different path would have allowed her to have it all. Heck, she has a Princeton Tenure – I would say that is a lot of “all” For context, I decided early on in my career to pursue a different path so that I could be at home with my young kids during the day, and their mother with them in the evening. This way we both felt that we were not missing out on anything. So, I believe I can empathize with the conflict. The McGinley article was a struggle for me. I have no love for Clinton, or Plain for vastly different reasons, But I will afford Clinton the respect that her Intellect and experience deserve, especially contrasted to Palin. I appreciate that use of contrast, but I think there are vastly more deserving conservative-minded women that would have held a fairer contrast. Jacinda Arden has shown another woman who can “have it all” PM, Mom, Girlfriend, etc. I found the article was very surface level and spent more time contrasting her

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“softer” leadership style to strongmen. I would add some males also demonstrate this leadership style. I could not access the Zenger and Folkman article (I read too many this month already), but I don’t know that is completely true. I know for the pandemic it was true, but look at the examples given, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, New Zealand, Germany, and Slovakia for the pandemic. These are parliamentary systems of government, with established social programs. However, in the financial industries, the examples given are more interesting. How many bad leaders have we looked at, and the examples are men? We’re talking about c-level positions. Is it that women are more concerned and stay focused on the task at hand? As opposed to men, who are given positions based on poor credentials, and or focus on ego vs community? Fundamentally what has changed is the shift in social norms. It is true that every successive generation becomes more progressive, so as society has evolved so has our perception of what is the norm. Women have always been involved in society; it is the writing of the story that diminishes them. Also, as technology has progressed, we no longer have regular conflicts over resources (I know – oil) but by and large, we are feeding and clothing most of the world’s population) so brute strength is getting mitigated as the overriding survival trait. Intellect, empathy, vision, things we studied are increasingly important and how can anyone think that half the world’s population doesn’t have those traits in equal parts.

What has remained largely the same? Though I believe that we have “come a long way baby”, we are nowhere close to perfect. I tell my son and daughter that they should look around the world and be inspired by young leaders, my son came back with this list

Loujain al-Hathloul Greta Thunberg Nadya Tolokonnikova. Malala Yousafzai

These are amazing young females having a huge impact on the world around them. But the attacks against them are vicious and misogynistic. One was shot, two have been jailed, and the last has taken on the American president and his right-wing cadre, and in my opinion, won. I mean who can win when they are attacking a young teenage girl, and you’re supposed to be a part of the most powerful administration in the world . So, it a two-step forward one step back kinda thing.

I really struggled to get into detail with any one part of the questions and keep to the 500-word minimum. Any more writing and I was worried you guys were gonna get angry lol. But all my answers require more depth for me to feel that I conveyed what I was thinking.

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Deesh,

Great post, really fun read. I do agree with you that the movie and the whole issue around the question of gender. Yes, there were a few hints about her femininity and “duties” as a woman/queen to produce an heir, but her overall gender and its affiliation didn’t really present themselves in the movie. She was a young and inexperienced princess that faced backlash because of her faith. After taking the throne and figuring out who is who, and what is what, she quickly solves the crisis she was faced with. Her main problem was as you said confidence and uncertainty of the shows she is about to fill.

Not to get into political debates but I know that there are many good women leaders in politics, but their name and reputation get smattered by others, which portray their leadership as a failure. If I had to summarize the Zenger and Folkman article it would be women leadership on a “glass cliff”. It talks about how women are better handlers of crisis situations.

Slava

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Deesh, I agree that her marriage was a political move more than a gender one. However, I do believe the gender role that DID factor into this was to have an heir to the throne. Stated by the advisor power was not absolute until she married and produced an heir to the throne.

I appreciate your believe also that her struggle with confidence was due to her struggle with confidence but if we take her past and look at it, the lack of involvement with the outside world once she was locked away and told what and when she could do anything plays a key role in the start of her crowning. All decisions were made for her from not only her sister, but men. I think her gender as a woman played a key role in her insecurities and initial trusting of some men. It was largely a mans role to lead and make all decisions. Even powerful women were told what to do and how to think. And when they did think for themselves and push back it was (and still is) considered to be harsh or b!***y because it

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is a woman. But when men do so, they are leaders and are considered decisive and authoritative. It is a double standard then and still today with women in leadership.

I enjoyed all of your words...was it more than 500?? HA! I do the same thing. It is a very open ended conversation with many walks of life, personal conflicts and experiences. I agree, we have come a long ways, but we have even further to go!

Thanks for the good read!!

Teresa

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

When Elizabeth is crowned Queen, I do believe she showed hesitation that others took it as a weakness. Trying to overthrow her, she took bad advice and was led by men. During these times it was a man’s world. They were still told what to do and held to a different standard and respect than men. Even powerful women were treated this way. Previously Elizabeth let men cloud her better judgment, she let them make decisions for her without hesitation because she was either in love, or felt inadequate. She was embarrassed and ashamed for allowing such decisions to be made to try and overthrow her.

Early on, Queen Mary’s dying request to her sister, Elizabeth, was to promise to uphold the Catholic religion to which Elizabeth responds, “I promise to act as my conscience dictates”. This was an early sign that she wanted change. But early on it proved she was unsure who to trust. This caused problems for her later and she had to rebuild a reputation and respect from all.

Elizabeth is told by men that absolute power will not be fully inherited until she marries and produces an heir. Men are ill-advising her but she does not want to move on from her heart which is to a married man, Lord Robert.

I believe confidence and executive power are elements that must go together. If you are not a confident leader, those may take you as weak, and attempt to take advantage of their own agenda, and here they did. The attempted assassinations and the repercussions from allowing

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herself to take bad advice has made her angry and decides to take control of what is hers. I think she struggled with following her heart but also was not keen on the fact she was made to look like a fool and taken advantage of.

In the scene where she dancing with Lord Robert (the second dance a Volta), Elizabeth gets frustrated when asking him about his wife, “Do you love her?” His response angers her even though it was what she wanted to hear. “I am no man’s Elizabeth...I will have one mistress here and no master”. I think this is a turning point for her and when she starts to demand the respect of men.

When she lets Lord Robert live she says it is to remind her how close she was to danger. I think this was a reminder not to let men rule her thoughts or to cloud her good judgment.

I also believe Elizabeth gains a new self confidence when she cuts all of her hair off. She started to gain respect from the people as their Queen. She announces her marriage…to England and has a new power that resonated through her when she finally came to terms with being in charge and being the one who got to make those calls.

Without giving away the next movie – she makes some very difficult decisions in the next Elizabeth movie as well (The Golden Age)!!

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“….it’s tempting to reach the conclusion that women must be better at dealing with this crisis because of their gender. This line of reasoning, however, is flawed—and potentially dangerous to women’s progress in politics. It’s not that women leaders are doing better. It’s just that strongmen are doing worse.” (Lewis)

Admittedly, this quote struck me as not giving women the full credit they deserve that in fact women are doing better. Better than the trailblazers in front of them leading the path to start earlier and given more chances but it also makes men seem as though they were once greater than women and now are just doing worse, making women look better. Still not sure how I feel about how this was written (as a woman!!)

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/05/new-zealand-germany- women-leadership-strongmen-coronavirus/611161/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/05/new-zealand-germany-women- leadership-strongmen-coronavirus/611161/)

Since the Elizabeth times of course we have come a long way in the United States, but we have yet to have a woman President and only one black male President. So while we have grown, it is not enough. The nation needs to stop believing that being compassionate means you cannot lead powerful men who show little compassion in a harsh world or make those

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same difficult decisions. That is how women are viewed, along with needing to be the nurturing mother that needs to focus on raising a good family while the man makes the money. However, as stated by Zenger and Folkman, “Comparing the overall leadership effectiveness ratings of men versus women, once again women were rated as more effective leaders (t- Value 2.926, Sig. 0.004). The gap between men and women in the pandemic is even larger than previously measured, possibly indicating that women tend to perform better in a crisis.” (Zenger&Folkman, 2020)

I think this means that women are natural multi-taskers, dealing with crisis on an hourly basis, especially mothers – my take just on my household growing up and my own

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Teresa,

I enjoyed reading your post and your thoughts on this week's topic. I too mentioned the quote from the movie, “I promise to act as my conscience dictates”. I think she held confidence in herself without realizing it at the time. She stood her ground and didn't lie just to make her half-sister feel better. Although she may have struggled she didn't stay down long and tapped into her confidence that was already a part of her.

I can certainly understand where your coming from about the quote you mentioned, "It’s not that women leaders are doing better. It’s just that strongmen are doing worse.” It seems to be downrating women either way you go. It's a battle that the world is still fighting for people to realize women are just as good as leaders as a man can be. However, many still believe this isn't possible. I've come to realize there are some people you just aren't going to be able to change their minds about anything. Hopefully, in educating the next generation, that way of thinking will decrease or stop altogether. One can only hope!

Nice post,

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male-dominated power dynamic of mid 16th century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

As I watched the movie, I really struggled to make the connection to the time period and gender concern to leading the country. The movie starts with her sister being the queen of England with no push from male-dominated power in not trusting her judgment. So why Elizabeth should be different in the gender sense. The only reason I can come up with is her position as being a young inexperienced princess which made the man not trust her. I do agree that at that time women were looked at as inferior to men, but I didn’t get that sense from the movie about Elizabeth. One of the times I felt that her gender was an issue is when the kingdom and the advisors are trying to convince her to have an heir to the throne (like it was her duty). Another example is that the advisor wanted to know what is going on in her bed plus the several attempts to convince her to get a husband.

This brings me to why women are great leaders because they are empathetic, multitaskers, high emotional intelligence, and more. I saw Elisabeth embrace all of those tools to figure out the way to rule and the way to lead. She quickly figured out who her friends and enemies were, and did what she thought was the right thing at each instance.

Confidence and executive presence were the two things she was lacking in her path to the throne. Even after she was crowned, she displayed a very immature or non-queen attitude. This plus her advisors were not really fond of her and her religion, so in my opinion, stepped over and started making decisions for her. Not to mention the odd request of inspecting her bedsheets. Her advisors didn’t have confidence in her abilities to lead (maybe because she didn’t present them) so they were empowered to make the decisions for her. They saw her as means to an end, to produce an heir. As the movie progressed her attitude and demeanor began to change. I believe she realized that all she needed was confidence. At a point in the movie, she did just that, she stood up to her advisors and to those who wished harm, and she began to lead.

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She definitely conveyed a shy and frightened attitude in the beginning. But really fast she learned that through confidence and executive presence she could be seen as a leader. I’m happy to see she remained true to herself to her belief and her intuition. At which she used all three to rule England in the way she saw fit and always remind true and acted on how her “conscience dictates”. This was also where I saw the biggest involvement in the areas, she was struggling in. She evolves from a shy and insecure princess to a highly accomplished queen.

Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed?

I would argue that gender is still a significant factor in defining leadership roles in a company. Society is influenced by behavior norms, personal bias, structure, relationships, and social roles which can be a major obstacle in having a determinant factor when it comes to leadership roles and advancements. There are still obvious gender barriers that are grounded in structural, institutional mindsets, Individual mindsets, and lifestyle choices. (Andrews) As it is always the case the gender and leadership come down to the biological characteristics of both sexes. According to the Pew research center attitudinal drivers that drive both sexes are different but essential in respective leadership roles, or even can be argued that it is essential in defining a male or a female leader. Social stereotypes can be misleading and even wrong in defining effective leadership. The stereotype of an effective leader can be evident also from the decision-making process and time-management aspects. In the end, people do not see a difference in sex playing a significant role when leading a company. Both sexes have the capacity and the skills to run a successful organization. People in organizations are looking for leaders to follow, and yes maybe some will have pre- sensitive notions about sex. But all of this vanishes when they have an integrated good or even level 5 leadership. A company's employees will not care what sex leading it, they will only care about the vision, objective, and goals. Not to mention that years of evolution taught women to be more qualified to lead in a crisis. One of those leaders that are very influential in the world today is New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s. Her leadership style is exactly what was needed in a time of crisis. She led her country with empathy, communication, example, sympathizer, and strategic decision making, and crisis decision making which made her an effective leader. According to the article written by Jack Zenger and Joseph Folkman women are usually able to handle better and most often given a crisis situation to dig the company out of “glass cliff” to dig the company from which Jacinda Ardern did during the epidemic crisis. I believe a lot of changed since Elizabeth’s not that her gender was an issue in the movie and in her life (at least I didn’t see it). I do think that the preconceived notion of gender roles is slowly vanishing, and more women can be seen in breaking stereotype rules like being primary breadwinners, leaders, and politicians. Although they are still expected to be caregivers by

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some aspects of society and have the preconceived notion of responsibility in child-rearing and house management.

What has remained largely the same?

I do believe that society as a whole made a great leap to be equal, but there is still work to be done. I think there will always be people that are looking to stereotype one gender against the other, but it is very rare. I do think that evolution still plays a great role in defining the urge to do what is natural. So as far as the natural instinct of a woman to be a caregiver is still largely the same, although women today breakthrough those stigmas and instincts, and implement those instincts in leadership roles.

Andrews, Dr. Shawn. “Gender Barriers and Solutions to Leadership.” Training Industry, 27 July 2020, trainingindustry.com/magazine/issue/gender-barriers-and-solutions-to-leadership/. Friedman, Uri. “New Zealand's Prime Minister May Be the Most Effective Leader on the Planet.” The Atlantic, Atlantic Media Company, 15 June 2020, www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-leadership- coronavirus/610237/. Pew Research Center, (2015). Women and Leadership. Public Says Women Are Equally Qualified But Barriers Persists. Retrieved on 9th April 2018 from www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/01/14/women-and-leadership/ “Research: Women Are Better Leaders During a Crisis.” Harvard Business Review, 30 Dec. 2020, hbr.org/2020/12/research-women-are-better-leaders-during-a-crisis? registration=success.

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Hi Slava,

You and I agree that the film fell short on the gender conflict issue. As to the issue of the heir, I don't think it was a women thing necessarily, an heir cemented her position as the queen, due to the heir being, well that an heir. If she doesn't have an heir, and she were removed from the throne, other individuals have a claim to the throne. But lines of succession and all that. Coming to America as an immigrant and living in so many different cultures, I do think that stereotypes are based on truth. However, I don't think stereotypes should indicate competence. The Euros are going on right now and were I in Toronto, everything you have ever heard about the Italian fans and their passion ( I call it whining) is absolutely on display and it is fun to be around. But that doesn't detract from

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other competencies. I am not sure I made a very good argument there. So another way I look at it, is that I absolutely disagree with everything politically and ideologically in the American "south". They hold true to every stereotype that we had of them as Canadians. However, I have learned that beyond their outward self, there is depth and nuance to them as a people and culture that I admire some of it. So while agreeing with stereotypes being realistic, I don't think they should be restrictive.

As always a well-thought-out post my friend.

Deesh

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Hi Slava, about your first answer, I would add that the English court viewed Elizabeth in a different light as her sister because the sister was married (even though she did not produced an heir). Being married could have been what sets her apart in the eyes of the men in power. I also think that Elizabeth was a threat to them from the beginning because of her religious believes based of the church of England and no the Catholic faith.

I love your comment "This brings me to why women are great leaders because they are empathetic, multitaskers, high emotional intelligence, and more", I could not agree with you more :). I think that Elizabeth used her emotional intelligence to appease the men in her court and navigate through her reign as a single woman.

In regards the last question, I have to agree with you that great progress has been achieved with women in leadership and positions of power, notions are shifting and in some cases, women are the main bread winners of their home while men take care of the house and children which would have been an inconceivable scenario just about 100-150 years ago. Even though women account for close to 50% of the world's population, they are still considered a minority which is ironic... so there is definitely more to be done before reaching equality.

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male-dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

Elizabeth is inherently a girly girl, her sister Mary- not so much. Elizabeth uses femininity to her advantage and seemingly has fun with it. Her attitude is generally whimsical, emphatic, sensitive. She is a strong-minded and independent spirit; flirtatious. She does not advocate for violence and tries to avoid conflict and war. She also humors numerous proposals, considering which is more meaningful and beneficial to her kingdom. Instead of hiding her emotions- as the males are encouraged to do- she lives a transparent lifestyle, fully displaying her actions. The men in power immediately rejected her, but more for her religion than her gender. After all, her sister Mary had previously ruled with few objections, and through lineage, there was simply no alternative available. They believed she could not lead, and she ultimately proved them wrong. When Lord Burly exclaims, "You are only a woman," Elizabeth agrees and admits that she is her father's daughter. In an epiphany moment, she realizes that she tried to run the kingdom the men's way and shifts her strategy to run it as a woman with a man's heart. Similar to how Jacinda Arden of New Zealand navigates leadership, Elizabeth attempts to manage everyone's expectations simultaneously, including her own, while staying true to her conscience. As the Atlantic (Friedman) article references, adding a personal touch goes a long way in setting a good example for society to follow.

Elizabeth demonstrates confidence while being interrogated by the men after her arrest. While firmly supporting her innocence and being whisked between the tower and other places within the palace, she uses few words. She is also supportive of others in distress, although her conditions are adverse. Elizabeth continues to motion respectfully in each uncomfortable situation to maintain formal traditions properly. She is hyper-observant, too, and always seems acutely aware of her surroundings. Her resilience remains true to her conscience and faith. Since she did not particularly believe in warfare or feel it was required, she struggled emotionally with the idea of battle. She is aware of how she is perceived, the receptiveness of her leadership. Bravery shows in her honest and direct request for the bishops. Convincingly expresses her purpose to serve the people as their sovereign representative. She plays on her gender compared to men and advises that she does not wish to see into their souls; a sense of humor. Her "executive presence" is on full display as she holds her own by commanding a room full of men judging her harshly to provide attentiveness and ultimately impresses them with her wit. This era forces her to contend with many antiquated masculine and chauvinistic "strongmen" ideals. However, she reinvents herself and her position by transforming into a virgin and adopting a stricter tenacity toward leadership by losing her vibrant energy and easy- going demeanor. As referenced in the “Why Women Still Can’t Have it All” article, Elizabeth had to choose her focus, and she chose to serve her country as the best, undistracted leader.

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Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth, what has changed? What has remained largely the same?

As referenced in the “Why Women Still Can’t Have it All” article, Elizabeth had to select her primary focus, and she chose to serve her country as the best, undistracted leader. Not everyone has a choice in this matter. Still, some do have the flexibility and option to dedicate themselves to ambitious pursuits, and others are passionate about raising a family. Some of the women referenced genuinely attempt to find balance with both; they also have more extensive support networks to attain this goal. There are only so many hours in a day, and while the world is more open to women juggling families and careers, it is nearly impossible to distribute proper attention that both require equally. And I commend anyone who tries.

To lead, “He or she needs talent, ambition, drive—and favorable life circumstances.” And, style. (Helen Lewis, The Atlantic)

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-leadership- coronavirus/610237/

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Hi Kimberly, I like how you described Elizabeth as feminine, whimsical and empathic which we can see in the first part of the movie when she spends time with Lord Dudley or when she allows the little boy to live and tells him to go back to his queen (Mary of Guise), I would argue that she shifted into a more masculine role after being betrayed by her court so many times but always remaining true to her conscious (except when later she beheads her cousin Mary of Scots which is not in the movie). IN regards to your statement, "Elizabeth attempts to manage everyone's expectations simultaneously, including her own, while staying true to her conscience", I think that through ought her reign she always cared for her people as the movie attributes her reign as being "The Golden Age" at the very end. She turned England into a wealthy country and supported peace which is perceived as a feminine trait in leadership. It is a common concept that England has never been more peaceful than with their queens at the realm as was

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Elizabeth's, later Queen Victoria's and presently with Queen Elizabeth II. They have all had long reigns.

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How does Elizabeth’s gender play in the male dominated power dynamic of mid 16 century England? How does Elizabeth use her gender?

England's royal court members, all men, see Elizabeth as a weakling queen at first whom rules with her heart and they all anticipated her reign to be short lived given an upcoming assassination's of some sort based on her religious beliefs. The court pushed for marriage from the very instant she became queen and continued to do so. Elizabeth cleverly uses her gender to ease things in heated arguments as we can see on the scene where she asks for a unified England, the catholic members are outraged and accused her of "forcing" them to betray their God, Elizabeth replies with a witty "How can I force you your Grace? I am a woman" and the court brakes out in laughter...This is an indication of the Emotional Intelligence Elizabeth possessed and how she used her own perceived weaknesses to her advantage.

According to Ann C McGinley, "Women are described as communal and are expected to act in others-oriented ways" We see Elizabeth convey to her court that her main concern was "for my people who are my only care", this was considered ruling with the heart and supports the stereotype of McGinley's "others-oriented ways" of behavior in women. In Elizabeth's case, she went through a painful transition of being a feminine ruler to a masculine one, she struggled with her love for Lord Robert Dudley which made her vulnerable. When Elizabeth finds out about Lord Dudley's affairs with other women, she decided to remain single when she says "I am no man's Elizabeth" "I will have only one mistress here! And NO MASTER! Her and Dudley's relationship ends up in a treasonous betrayal which seemed to not bother her as much as his infidelities.

Reflect on gender and leadership – since the time of Elizabeth what has changed? What has remained largely the same? Be sure to pull in the readings to illustrate your thoughts on this question

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According to Ann C. McGinley's article Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Obama: Performing Gender, Race, and Class on the Campaign Trail, "women's identities as aspiring political leaders continue to be problematic, and require women to negotiate a double bind: if they are too feminine, they are deemed incompetent. If they are too masculine, they are considered not likeable". I can observe this in an even more recent political figure, Vice- President Kamala Harris. Even though she is known for having been a "though" prosecutor and tough politician in general, there are great efforts to show her by her husband's side, surrounded by her kids as often as possible so that feminine image is still strongly tied to her expected gender roles. The article was written in 2009, we are in 2021 and women in powerful political positions and corporate ones has evolved in favor of women but the path to equality is still ahead.