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What is the Leibniz’s Law used to defend Descartes’ argument for dualism and what is Sober’s criticism against Descartes?

Madison, Octavia, Mohemmed

Leibniz’s Law

Idea that if m and b are identical, then they must have all the same properties

Principle of the indiscernibility of identicals

If even one property of m is different than b then they are distinct entities

M has property P.

B does not have property P.

If m has a property that b lacks, then m is NOT equal to b.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxnQRzZYYs

Applied to Descartes- Indubitable Existence Argument

Descartes claims you can’t doubt that you have a mind

Sober agrees with Descartes but

Existence of the body however is indubitable

Disembodied spirit

Mind has a property your body lacks

Sobers Criticism

Clark Kent, Louis Lane, and Superman

Louis Lane wants to marry Superman

Louis Lane does not want to marry Clark Kent

Superman is not identical with Clark Kent

Just because Louis wants to marry one and not other does not mean Clark and Superman have different properties, they are still the identical

According to Leibniz Law they are different

Descartes also claims that you can doubt one of the two propositions

I have a brain

I have a mind

Sober says that it does not follow that his brain has different properties from his mind

Propositions are different but that doesn't’t show the brain and mind are different OBJECTS

Conclusion

According to Leibniz Law if two objects or propositions have different properties then they are not identical

According to Sober, objects can have different properties and still be identical

Clark Kent and Superman