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STOP THE MEETING MADNESS HOW TO FREE UP TIME FOR MEANINGFUL WORK BY LESLIE A. PERLOW, CONSTANCE NOONAN HADLEY, AND EUNICE EUN
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P Poking fun at meetings is the stuff of Dilbert car- toons—we can all joke about how soul-sucking and painful they are. But that pain has real consequences for teams and organizations. In our interviews with hundreds of executives, in fields ranging from high tech and retail to pharmaceuticals and consulting, many said they felt overwhelmed by their meetings— whether formal or informal, traditional or agile, face- to-face or electronically mediated. One said, “I cannot get my head above water to breathe during the week.”
Another described stabbing her leg with a pencil to stop from screaming during a particularly torturous staff meeting. Such complaints are supported by re- search showing that meetings have increased in length and frequency over the past 50 years, to the point where executives spend an average of nearly 23 hours a week in them, up from less than 10 hours in the 1960s. And that doesn’t even include all the impromptu gatherings that don’t make it onto the schedule.
Much has been written about this problem, but the solutions posed are usually discrete: Establish a clear agenda, hold your meeting standing up, delegate someone to attend in your place, and so on. We’ve observed in our research and consulting that real im- provement requires systemic change, because meet- ings affect how people collaborate and how they get their own work done.
Yet change of such scope is rarely considered. When we probed into why people put up with the strain that meetings place on their time and sanity, we found something surprising: Those who resent and dread meetings the most also defend them as a “necessary evil”—sometimes with great passion. Consider this excerpt from the corporate blog of a senior executive in the pharmaceutical industry:
I believe that our abundance of meetings at our company is the Cultural Tax we pay for the inclusive, learning environment that we want to foster… and I’m ok with that. If the alternative to more meetings is more autocratic decision-making, less input from all levels throughout the organization, and fewer opportunities to ensure alignment and communication by personal interaction, then give me more meetings any time!
To be sure, meetings are essential for enabling col- laboration, creativity, and innovation. They often foster relationships and ensure proper information exchange. They provide real benefits. But why would anyone ar- gue in defense of excessive meetings, especially when no one likes them much?
Because executives want to be good soldiers. When they sacrifice their own time and well-being for meet- ings, they assume they’re doing what’s best for the business—and they don’t see the costs to the organiza- tion. They overlook the collective toll on productivity, focus, and engagement.
For one thing, time is zero-sum. Every minute spent in a wasteful meeting eats into time for solo work that’s equally essential for creativity and effi- ciency. For another, schedules riddled with meetings interrupt “deep work”—a term that the Georgetown computer science professor Cal Newport uses to de- scribe the ability to focus without distraction on a
IN BRIEF
THE CHALLENGE Meetings are supposed to improve creativity and productivity—but they do the opposite when they’re excessive, badly scheduled, poorly run, or all three. These problems take a toll on the whole organization, and they require systemic fixes.
THE SOLUTION Groups must first figure out what kind of time their meetings tend to waste— group, individual, or both. They can then follow a five- step process for change: (1) collect impressions from each member; (2) interpret those together; (3) choose a group goal for improving meetings that feels personally relevant and motivating; (4) measure progress; and (5) regularly check in to make sure people don’t revert to old patterns.
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work time. Often groups end up sacri‑ ficing collective or individual needs— or both—by default. Balancing those needs effectively is ideal, but few or‑ ganizations do that. In a recent survey we conducted with nearly 200 senior executives from diverse industries, only 17% reported that their meetings are generally productive uses of group and individual time. Other respon‑ dents said their meetings fall into one of these categories:
Wasters of group time. Some or‑ ganizations have relatively few meet‑ ings but run them poorly. As a result, individuals have sufficient time for solo tasks and deep thinking, but group productivity and collaboration are weakened because each meeting is inefficient. About 16% of the exec‑ utives in our sample said this is true where they work.
A team at a global e‑commerce company we studied had just one or two meetings a week, but they still felt like a waste of group time for several reasons. First, hours and locations often changed at the last minute, so many people arrived unprepared or didn’t come at all. Second, the agenda was often vague or redundant with side conversations that had already occurred, so the meetings felt like a rubber‑stamping of decisions made elsewhere. Third, when new issues were raised, next steps were usually left unclear, leading to more sidebar conversations outside the room. One soft‑ ware developer told us that he kept showing up for the meetings even though he rarely got anything out of them, because his attendance was expected by his manager and everyone else. As a workaround, he co‑ vertly did his own tasks during meeting time. While this may seem like a harmless way to maintain indi‑ vidual productivity in the short term, it causes group productivity and camaraderie to deteriorate over the long term. When people don’t contribute to the dis‑ cussion or pay attention to what’s being said, the team fails to reap the full benefits of convening, and the meeting wastes everyone’s time.
Wasters of individual time. Sometimes meet‑ ings are relatively high in quality and therefore tech‑ nically a good use of group time—but individuals’ time dissipates because the sheer quantity of meet‑ ings crowds out solo work, and poor scheduling dis‑ rupts critical deep thinking. In our survey of execu‑ tives, 13% said that their organizations struggle with this particular problem.
65% SAID MEETINGS KEEP THEM FROM COMPLETING THEIR OWN WORK
cognitively demanding task. (In a recent study, man‑ agers across the board in the United States and China told us that this happens “far too often!”) As a conse‑ quence, people tend to come to work early, stay late, or use weekends for quiet time to concentrate.
Another issue is the stiff price companies pay for badly run meetings. For example, Simone Kauffeld, of Technische Universität Braunschweig, and Nale Lehmann‑Willenbrock, of the University of Amsterdam, found in a study of 20 organizations from the automotive supply, metal, electrical, chemical, and packaging industries that dysfunctional meeting be‑ haviors (including wandering off topic, complaining, and criticizing) were associated with lower levels of market share, innovation, and employment stability.
Happiness at work takes a hit too. A study by Steven Rogelberg, of the University of North Carolina, and colleagues showed that how workers feel about the effectiveness of meetings correlates with their general satisfaction or dissatisfaction with their jobs, even af‑ ter controlling for personality traits and environmen‑ tal factors such as work design, supervision, and pay. Instead of improving communication and collabo‑ ration, as intended, bad meetings undermine those things. Consider the executive who stabbed her leg with a pencil. Did that staff meeting advance teamwork or set it back? A few positive experiences a week cannot make up for a lot of excruciating, wasteful ones.
The good news is, we’ve found that changing the way your team and your organization approach meet‑ ings is possible. In this article we describe a five‑step process for that—along with the diagnostic work you’ll need to do in advance. Often the results can be dra‑ matic and extend far beyond the conference room. At a financial and regulatory consultancy we stud‑ ied, for example, three months after managers began to rethink the firm’s approach to meetings, a survey showed that employees perceived significant improve‑ ments in team collaboration (a 42% increase), psycho‑ logical safety to speak up and express opinions (a 32% increase), and team performance (a 28% increase). Other aspects of organizational life improved as well, and respondents’ ratings of satisfaction with work/life balance rose from 62% to 92%.
We have seen how much organizations can ben‑ efit when they focus their energy on transforming meetings instead of just tolerating them. Here’s how to identify and address the meeting problems your group may face.
HOW IS YOUR GROUP VULNERABLE? Problems ensue when meetings are scheduled and run without regard to their impact on both group and solo
WE SURVEYED 182 SENIOR MANAGERS IN A RANGE OF INDUSTRIES:
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Here’s an example of how it plays out: One private equity firm we ex- amined had a rigorous protocol for r u n n i ng e f fe c t ive m e e t i ng s . Fo r each session, prework was sent out with adequate notice, clear goals were established, and meeting time was managed against an agenda. Group updates and decisions were consequently handled efficiently. However, as the firm grew over time, more and more meetings were added to the weekly c alendar. Although they were well run, their sheer vol- u m e i nte r r u p te d wo r k fl ow a n d took away time that the investment staff could dedicate to critical indi- vidual tasks, such as sourcing new opportunities and deepening relationships with managers at companies the firm owned or sought to own. As this firm’s experience demonstrates, excessive meetings force people to make trade- offs concerning how and when to accomplish their solo work. Sometimes tasks get dropped or short- changed. But more often people steal from their personal time to get that work done, a sacrifice that research and practice have shown can lead to burnout and turnover—steep prices for both employees and organizations.
Wasters of both individual and group time. Many organizations we have worked with endure the triple whammy of meetings that are (1) too frequent, (2) poorly timed, and (3) badly run, leading to losses in productivity, collaboration, and well-being for both groups and individuals. This is the worst-case sce- nario—and, unfortunately, the most prevalent. The majority of our survey respondents—54%—put their meetings in this category.
One manager at a pharmaceutical company de- scribed finding herself in a one- to two-hour “mar- ket readiness” meeting every other week because the organizer really wanted her to attend, claiming that everyone’s input was extraordinarily valuable. However, the group also typically sent out slide decks for the team to review in advance and then just walked through those decks during the meetings. As this manager asked herself and her team, “Why would you need to get one person from each sub- team from every department into a room just to go over each slide individually when you’ve already sent us the entire deck?” Her team members commiserated, reporting that they each attended scores of similarly wasteful meetings that left them with little or no time for their “real work” throughout the day. In situations
like this, group time is wasted and individual time is obliterated.
STRIKING THE RIGHT BALANCE Unfortunately, individuals can’t solve these problems on their own. Just think how many times you’ve tried to reduce the number of meetings on your calendar— probably with limited success. Because so many people are involved in scheduling and running the meetings we attend, it takes a collective effort to fix them.
However, with a structured approach to analyz- ing and changing meeting patterns throughout your team or unit, you can make significant improvements. We’ve seen groups escape the meeting trap by working together to follow five basic steps:
1 Collect data from each person. To get a clearer view of how meetings are affecting your group, use surveys or interviews to gather data and impres-
sions from every individual. That will help you gauge the full extent of the problem: You’ll learn how much resentment is bubbling under the surface and how much work isn’t getting done during the day. (See the exhibit “How Are Meetings Affecting People in Your Organization?”)
2 Interpret the data together. Next, it’s critical to come together as a team or a unit to digest every- one’s feedback and analyze what is working and
what is not. This must be an open, nonjudgmental dis- cussion of the survey or interview findings. Neutral fa- cilitators can help keep the conversation constructive. However, delegating the data interpretation to an out- side consultant—or even just a subset of the team— can undermine success. You’ll need contributions and analysis from all team members to generate the widespread under- standing and buy-in required for the remaining steps.
At the financial and regula- tor y consultanc y we studied, for example, exploratory inter- v iews revealed that meetings we r e c h o p p i ng u p c a l e n d a r s so badly that very few two- or three-hour blocks were left for deep-thinking work. Without enough quiet time to concen- trate, the consultants felt that their creativity and productivity were being sapped. These dis- closures served as a wake-up call for the managers who had been
71% SAID MEETINGS ARE UNPRODUCTIVE AND INEFFICIENT
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scheduling meetings without a full awareness of the impact they were having.
3 Agree on a collective, personally relevant goal. We have found that personally benefiting from the group’s initiative is a great motivator.
For example, you might designate a certain amount of time each week for people to focus on independent work—whether in the office or at home. Giving them such flexibility and freedom can provide necessary re- lief in their schedules, along with an incentive to make the arrangement work. Declaring “meeting free” peri- ods also forces the whole group to reevaluate meet- ings that were normally scheduled during those times and to ask who really needs to attend. As a result, we find, teams hold fewer meetings overall, and fewer people go to each one. The additional “white space” in everyone’s calendar increases individual productivity and reduces the spillover into personal time.
Here’s how this approach worked at a technology consultancy we examined: Members were based in the United States and India, so a handoff meeting was held each day—early in the morning for some and late at night for others to accommodate the 12.5-hour time difference. The long days were causing significant stress and fatigue on both sides: Early-morning calls were required, family dinners were missed, workdays were more than 12 hours long. Once the team had collected survey data from its members and realized the magnitude of the problem, it altered its approach: Each person was given one workday a week when he or she didn’t have to participate in the handoff call.
In order to ensure the appropriate information ex- change, team members had to find ways to cover for one another and keep everyone updated. Learning how to do that gave individuals the break they needed, but it also resulted in more shared knowledge and versatility in the group. Furthermore, people gained a deeper understanding of their colleagues’ work, which led to better-integrated offerings for customers.
4 Set milestones and monitor progress. As with any change effort, it is important that concrete and measurable progress be assessed and discussed
along the way. Small, tangible wins provide something for people to celebrate, and small losses provide oppor- tunities for learning and correction. Consider this ex- ample: At a global e-commerce company, a team of 30 employees spanning the United States and China told us that their weekly all-hands meetings were a pain point. Attendees were often on their phones or laptops. Because people were continually distracted, those who spoke had to repeat themselves frequently, making the time spent not only longer but also much less effective.
GOAL SAMPLE QUESTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS
WHAT THEIR ANSWERS REVEAL
TAKE EVERYONE’S EMOTIONAL PULSE
Look at your work calendar for the week ahead: • What emotions does it evoke
in you? • What three words or phrases
come to mind when you think about the meetings you attend regularly?
• How negatively people feel about meetings in your organization
• How much rationalization or defensiveness supports the status quo
TALLY THE HOURS SPENT IN MEETINGS
Now look at your work calendar for the past three weeks: • How many meetings did you
attend, and how much time did you spend in them altogether?
• Week by week, did you spend more or less time in meetings than usual? What about day by day? How does that compare with your typical schedule?
• The total time your organization spends on meetings, along with the average amounts per week and day
• How much those figures vary in your organization (by person, role, function, or group)
CONSIDER THE BALANCE BETWEEN GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL WORK TIME
Looking again at the meetings you attended over the past three weeks: • Did you feel you had sufficient
time left to get your own work done, or did you need to use off-hours to accomplish it?
• How much time outside normal business hours did you spend on your work?
• The perceived impact on people’s ability to do their own work during the day
• Total off-hours time spent catching up on individual work
ASSESS IMPACT ON WORK QUALITY
Now let’s go to a typical week in your calendar. Of the meetings you attended, how many (or what percentage) would you say were: 1. Very productive, essential 2. Somewhat productive, marginal 3. Not very useful, a waste of time
• The perceived proportion of high-, medium-, and low-quality meetings
• How much that varies in your organization
IDENTIFY BEST PRACTICES
Take a closer look at your quality ratings: • Overall, what differentiates
the meetings that were consistently rated as very productive from those in the other two categories?
• Take a sample meeting from each category. On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the effectiveness of each one?
• Do you see patterns in the best meetings that could be replicated elsewhere?
• How else might you leverage the lessons from the productive meetings?
• What sets the best meetings apart from the rest
• Just how bad the worst meetings are, and why
• Ideas for extending positive practices throughout the organization
HOW ARE MEETINGS AFFECTING PEOPLE IN YOUR ORGANIZATION? Ask them. That’s a simple, direct way to collect data from each person (step 1 in the process outlined in this article). Regular “pulse checks” will help you gauge ongoing reactions, but it’s also good to use surveys, interviews, or both to periodically gather responses to a series of probing questions. Include your own answers as well.
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To help address these problems, the team decided on a simple, tractable goal: Allow no outside technology at the meetings.
At first several vocal engineers and even the team leader were re- sistant, feeling that they should have the right to use their devices, especially when meetings became boring or turned to topics outside their purview. For a while after the initiative was launched, friendly reminders (“No tech, man!”) were necessary. But over time the new norm took hold, and even the man- ager self-corrected when he instinc- tively started to check his phone. The team began to see the bene- fits of this experiment. Meetings
became more productive, and people were more engaged. As one engineer said, “This no-tech rule is fantastic! Now that people are more focused on the meeting, it’s more efficient.” Another team member started bringing a notebook to jot down thoughts rather than playing games on her phone. This small victory opened the door to setting other new norms, such as preparing materials more thoroughly ahead of time, keeping meetings as brief as possible, and ulti- mately reworking meeting cadences to better fit the team members’ schedules.
5 Regularly debrief as a group. Finally, we have found that it is critical to regularly and openly take stock of how people feel about the meetings they
attend and about their work process more generally. Frustration, resentment, and even hopelessness are signals that people are falling back into bad patterns. Moreover, changing protocols and behaviors takes time, and sustaining momentum requires consistent attention and contact.
At a pharmaceutical company we worked with, the global medical-affairs division established two regular “pulse checks” to monitor the progress of an exper- iment it was conducting with meeting-free days: one check within the subteam and one across the division. At the beginning of each pulse check, participants an- swered four questions: How are you feeling? How valu- able are the ways in which you are spending your time? How well are you working as a team? Is this sustainable?
The answers to these questions triggered sub- stantive discussions, rich in emotional, strategic, and tactical content. Early conversations focused specifi- cally on the meeting problem, but over time they in- creasingly addressed how team members approached
their work—and one another. One manager said, “I’m impressed with how these meetings have allowed people to open up, particularly with [the manager] lis- tening….Pulse checks are really insightful—they give me a good dose of reality....and they surfaced issues that resulted in more cross-coverage, people devel- opment, and teamwork. It sounds crazy that this little experiment could create these sorts of results, but it has profound implications far beyond the initial goal.”
We suggest brief weekly check-ins for a few months, until the new norms, processes, and attitudes are in place. After that, every other week should do it. Regardless of the frequency of pulse checks, people should have regular, structured forums in which to ex- press their frustrations and surface problems as well as to improve how the team works together.
For all these steps, leadership support is critical— but it doesn’t necessarily need to come from the C-suite. We have found that a group can change its approach to meetings as long as the team leader has the authority to encourage people to raise issues, take risks, make mistakes, and discover new ways of working together. This can happen even if the group is closely connected to other groups in the organiza- tion. For example, the global medical-affairs division’s refusal to attend interdivisional meetings on meet- ing-free days was met first with consternation, then with curiosity, and ultimately with change throughout the organization as norms were shattered and new ways of working were modeled.
A CONDUIT FOR CHANGE As we have witnessed at multiple companies in a range of industries, altering something as basic as meetings can have far-reaching implications. One manager re- flected, “We started communicating more openly and honestly, which enabled us to better help each other…. We helped each other prioritize, we helped each other find access to other resources, and sometimes we real- located tasks or simply helped each other do the work.”
Meetings do not have to be a trap; they can be a conduit for change. A process like this one can im- prove productivity, communication, and integration of the team’s work, not to mention job satisfaction and work/life balance. In the end, better meetings—and better work lives—result. HBR Reprint R1704C
LESLIE A. PERLOW is the Konosuke Matsushita Professor of Leadership at Harvard Business School and founder of
the Better Work Institute. CONSTANCE NOONAN HADLEY is a lecturer in organizational behavior at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business. EUNICE EUN is a research associate at Harvard Business School and was formerly a consultant at the Better Work Institute.
FURTHER READING
For more on increasing organizations’ productivity and efficiency, see these HBR articles.
“Your Scarcest Resource” Michael Mankins, Chris Brahm, and Greg Caimi (May 2014)
“Get Your Team to Do What It Says It’s Going to Do” Heidi Grant (May 2014)
“Manage Your Team’s Collective Time” Leslie A. Perlow (June 2014)
“Make Time for the Work That Matters” Julian Birkinshaw and Jordan Cohen (September 2013)
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